lwoxley
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:26 PM UTC
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by manimtired:
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
Just go read his speech.
His speech like Bill Clintons I didn't have sexual relations with that woman speech? I think they call that 'back-pedalling' don't they? I don't need to hear his speech, I've heard enough from his pastor, who is someone he obviously looks up to because he's been a member of his church for the last 25 years or so. I won't step foot in an American Catholic church because of what I heard from an American Catholic priest. The church
is the preacher, the building is just bricks and mortar.
We all know if this was McCain or Hillary they would both be guilty by association and their campaign would be for all intent and purpose over at this point.
And wasn't this hate monger on Obamas cmapaign staff until recently as the religous advisor or something?
What about his wife who even I saw on TV say "for the first time in my life I am proud to be an American"???? That was when I eliminated Obama as my candidate. We don't need a first lady heading out to state dinners who has spent the vast majority of her life ashamed of her country.
None of the candidates make me want to go out and vote for anyone of them, but it will probably be Hillary by process of elmination…if Obama becomes the democratic candidate I'll probably go for McCain….then go home and take a long hot shower.
ratioci nation
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:30 PM UTC
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Originally posted by manimtired:
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
I would, especially if it was the same shit, I would prefer nobody talk about religion, so I am not going to take what they hear in church in to account, only when it affects their policies
callat703
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:31 PM UTC
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by manimtired:
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
Just go read his speech.
His speech like Bill Clintons I didn't have sexual relations with that woman speech? I think they call that 'back-pedalling' don't they?
I'm not going to respond to you, because I can't do it as well as Obama did in his speech. He didn't back-pedal at all. He addressed exactly what you're talking about head on.
manimtired
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:36 PM UTC
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do you realize how hard his close relationship with this racist pastor is going to haunt him if he makes it to the general? his sheep supporters seem not to care but i think a lot of americans will.
lwoxley
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:37 PM UTC
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Originally posted by manimtired:
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
I would, especially if it was the same shit, I would prefer nobody talk about religion, so I am not going to take what they hear in church in to account, only when it affects their policies
<img src="
http://www.biblepicturegallery.com/Thumbs/ca/editors/adult/Man%20wearing%20blinkers%20looking%20worried.jpg" alt=" - " />
manimtired
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:38 PM UTC
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and andrew sullivan? please..
callat703
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:40 PM UTC
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Originally posted by manimtired:
do you realize how hard his close relationship with this racist pastor is going to haunt him if he makes it to the general? his sheep supporters seem not to care but i think a lot of americans will.
I think if he can address it in the way he did in his speech, it won't matter.
And I cite Sullivan because he said it more eloquently than I can. Read his speech and make up your own mind.
ggw
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:40 PM UTC
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I think mankie and manimtired are afraid that if they dare set eyes on the speech they may be transformed into Obamazombies.
ratioci nation
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:41 PM UTC
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what exactly do i have blinders on from? I gave McCain money in 2000 when he made his statements against the religious right in south carolina, I am an atheist who has never been to church willingly, and I will never go, I would prefer religion not be discussed in politics
when I say WHO THE FUCK CARES I am not implying that people dont care, I am voicing my frustration that it shouldnt matter, I am well aware that people do care and that is the source of my frustration
godsshoeshine
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:42 PM UTC
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maybe they have their blinders on
lwoxley
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:42 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I think mankie and manimtired are afraid that if they dare set eyes on the speech they may be transformed into Obamazombies.
On the contrary…I'm afraid it may transform me into a republican,
<img src="
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44497000/jpg/_44497330_obama_wright_ap203b.jpg" alt=" - " />
Cozy huh?
ratioci nation
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:44 PM UTC
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
On the contrary…I'm afraid it may transform me into a republican,
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44497000/jpg/_44497330_obama_wright_ap203b.jpg" alt=" - " />
Cozy huh?
what exactly offends you so much about Wrights statements beyond the initial reaction?
manimtired
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:45 PM UTC
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he can say whatever he wants now..i dont really care. it doesnt make up for his 25 year relationship with this racist idiot.
manimtired
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:46 PM UTC
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
On the contrary…I'm afraid it may transform me into a republican,
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44497000/jpg/_44497330_obama_wright_ap203b.jpg" alt=" - " />
Cozy huh?
what exactly offends you so much about Wrights statements beyond the initial reaction?
are you being serious? ok.
godsshoeshine
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:48 PM UTC
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what do you think of the mccain/hagee relationship?
manimtired
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:49 PM UTC
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enlighten me…even though i hate mccain too.
elj
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:50 PM UTC
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The more I learn about the three remaining candidates, the more I feel if it's Obama/McCain in the general election, I will not only vote for, but contribute money to, McCain. The Democratic Party is going to lose alot of voters for a long time if he somehow steals this nomination.
lwoxley
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:52 PM UTC
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Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
On the contrary…I'm afraid it may transform me into a republican,
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44497000/jpg/_44497330_obama_wright_ap203b.jpg" alt=" - " />
Cozy huh?
what exactly offends you so much about Wrights statements beyond the initial reaction?
are you being serious? ok.
I can't believe pollard even asked that question to be honest.
I bet pollard was one of the yo-yo's who fainted at an Obama rally!!!
"We need water, one of my disciples has just fainted down here…oh never mind, I'll just change this wine into water for him"
ratioci nation
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:52 PM UTC
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Originally posted by manimtired:
are you being serious? ok.
yes I am, I do happen to think that 9/11 happened as a result of our foreign policy, that doesnt mean the US is to blame for it, but I think its important to recognize the role it played
godsshoeshine
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Re: DC Area Voters
March 18, 2008 at 04:54 PM UTC
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Originally posted by manimtired:
enlighten me…even though i hate mccain too.
hagee heads one of the megachurches. he's thrown his support behind mccain, but has said many anticatholic things in the past. he also said that katrina was punishment from god