Originally posted by vansmack:What do you mean…he's already got more votes than Nader will get..
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:Hey Doom - free campaing advice from Smackie.
I'd probably vote for you over the other three choices…
This is not the endorsement you want from the boardies.
DC Area Voters
pollard. . .you're beloved talking points:
Linda Hershman no longer allowed to post
So. Either the dozen guys who run TPM do not think female voting behavior is worthy of their coverage or, dare I say it, they don't want to run material that might result in readers supporting a candidate other than the one they favor. They do not appear to have deacquisitioned Ruth Rosen, who is one of the Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama!â?¢ which of course only supports my most paranoid thoughts.
Linda Hershman no longer allowed to post
So. Either the dozen guys who run TPM do not think female voting behavior is worthy of their coverage or, dare I say it, they don't want to run material that might result in readers supporting a candidate other than the one they favor. They do not appear to have deacquisitioned Ruth Rosen, who is one of the Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama!â?¢ which of course only supports my most paranoid thoughts.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:TPM is just one site of many I read on a daily basis, but just so you know, plenty of Obama supporters give them crap for favoring Hillary by just reciting her campaigns conference call every morning, and I also rarely read TPM cafe or reader posts on there, stick to the 3 main writers they do a pretty good job of reporting
pollard. . .you're beloved talking points:
and if you want to talk bias, you dont need to look any further than the site you just linked from, Taylor Marsh is just about the worst when it comes to being in the bag for one candidate at any cost (she lead the effort to tie Obama to The Weather Underground)
Originally posted by pdx pollard:Obama had something to do with shitty mall-punk band AFI's latest aural-abortion? Brutal!
(she lead the effort to tie Obama to The Weather Underground)
Originally posted by pdx pollard:i wouldn't know anything about that. . the past week or so has been enjoyable reading from my side.
and if you want to talk bias, you dont need to look any further than the site you just linked from, Taylor Marsh is just about the worst when it comes to being in the bag for one candidate at any cost (she lead the effort to tie Obama to The Weather Underground)
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:the Ron Paul side? I fail to see how you could be on McCain's side
i wouldn't know anything about that. . the past week or so has been enjoyable reading from my side.
Originally posted by pdx pollard:definately not a paul supporter, his position on trade is a deal-breaker for me. needless to say, having the nafta issue come up was enjoyable for me to watch.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:the Ron Paul side? I fail to see how you could be on McCain's side
i wouldn't know anything about that. . the past week or so has been enjoyable reading from my side.
You know, they make a big deal about Obama being black and Clinton being a woman.
But what they seem to forget is that Obama is half white by birth and pretty much all white by upbringing. And for all intentional purposes, Hillary is a man.
But what they seem to forget is that Obama is half white by birth and pretty much all white by upbringing. And for all intentional purposes, Hillary is a man.
Hey Obama supporters….even more 'sheepish' than usual right now huh???
im interested to see how obama talks his way out of the pastor situation…oof.
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:huh, I feel pretty ashamed right now, but not of Obama, head out and read what people say in response to his speech today and to the pastor shit, to try and deny racism isnt a huge problem in this country after reading what people say when they can hide behind the internet is an outright lie
Hey Obama supporters….even more 'sheepish' than usual right now huh???
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:Not at all. I feel more proud of my candidate than I have throughout the campaign. His speech from this morning was one of the more inspiring things I've heard from him yet.
Hey Obama supporters….even more 'sheepish' than usual right now huh???
do you honestly believe obama, after 20 years, had never heard any of the inflamatory stuff this guy said? this is what obama has claimed.
Originally posted by manimtired:he said this morning he did hear controversial stuff, what he said before was that he had not heard those specific statements regarding 9/11
do you honestly believe obama, after 20 years, had never heard any of the inflamatory stuff this guy said? this is what obama has claimed.
Originally posted by manimtired:No, its not. From Obama's speech less than an hour ago:
do you honestly believe obama, after 20 years, had never heard any of the inflamatory stuff this guy said? this is what obama has claimed.
"On one end of the spectrum, we've heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it's based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap. On the other end, we've heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation; that rightly offend white and black alike.
I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely, just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed."
Go read it:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashos.htm
oh AND WHO THE FUCK CARES what he heard in church
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
Originally posted by manimtired:Just go read his speech.
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
Originally posted by callat703:i dont need to go read a prepared speech that he gave to backpedal out of the situation. hope change unity…did he mention that we deserved 9/11 and that the government created AIDS to kill black people?
Originally posted by manimtired:Just go read his speech.
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
Originally posted by manimtired:Fine, then don't read it. Read what Andrew Sullivan had to say about it:
Originally posted by callat703:i dont need to go read a prepared speech that he gave to backpedal out of the situation.
Originally posted by manimtired:Just go read his speech.
im sure if mccain or whoever had a pastor who married him, baptized his kids and was his mentor - as he's claimed, spouted off stuff like this you'd say "WHO CARES" …lol
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/the-speech.html
The Speech
18 Mar 2008 11:32 am
Alas, I cannot give a more considered response right now as I have to get on the road. But I do want to say that this searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching, loyal, and deeply, deeply Christian speech is the most honest speech on race in America in my adult lifetime. It is a speech we have all been waiting for for a generation. Its ability to embrace both the legitimate fears and resentments of whites and the understandable anger and dashed hopes of many blacks was, in my view, unique in recent American history.
And it was a reflection of faith - deep, hopeful, transcending faith in the promises of the Gospels. And it was about America - its unique promise, its historic purpose, and our duty to take up the burden to perfect this union - today, in our time, in our way.
I have never felt more convinced that this man's candidacy - not this man, his candidacy - and what he can bring us to achieve - is an historic opportunity. This was a testing; and he did not merely pass it by uttering safe bromides. He addressed the intimate, painful love he has for an imperfect and sometimes embittered man. And how that love enables him to see that man's faults and pain as well as his promise. This is what my faith is about. It is what the Gospels are about. This is a candidate who does not merely speak as a Christian. He acts like a Christian.
Bill Clinton once said that everything bad in America can be rectified by what is good in America. He was right - and Obama takes that to a new level. And does it with the deepest darkest wound in this country's history.
I love this country. I don't remember loving it or hoping more from it than today.