DC Area Voters

Hillary Clinton, liar:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=300860


Clinton Lie Kills Her Credibility on Trade Policy

What is the proper word for the claim by Hillary Clinton and the more factually disinclined supporters of her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination – made in speeches, briefings and interviews (including one by this reporter with the candidate) – that she has always been a critic of the North American Free Trade Agreement?

Now that we know from the 11,000 pages of Clinton White House documents released this week that former First Lady was an ardent advocate for NAFTA; now that we know she held at least five meetings to strategize about how to win congressional approval of the deal; now that we know she was in the thick of the manuevering to block the efforts of labor, farm, environmental and human rights groups to get a better agreement. Now that we know all of this, how should we assess the claim that Hillary's heart has always beaten to a fair-trade rhythm?

Now that we know from official records of her time as First Lady that Clinton was the featured speaker at a closed-door session where 120 women opinion leaders were hectored to pressure their congressional representatives to approve NAFTA; now that we know from ABC News reporting on the session that "her remarks were totally pro-NAFTA" and that "there was no equivocation for her support for NAFTA at the time;" now that we have these details confirmed, what should we make of Clinton's campaign claim that she was never comfortable with the militant free-trade agenda that has cost the United States hundreds of thousands of union jobs, that has idled entire industries, that has saddled this country with record trade deficits, undermined the security of working families in the US and abroad, and has forced Mexican farmers off their land into an economic refugee status that ultimately forces them to cross the Rio Grande River in search of work?

As she campaigns now, Clinton says, "I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning."

But the White House records confirm that this is not true.

Her statement is, to be precise, a lie.

When it comes to the essential test of the trade debate, Clinton has been identified as a liar – a put-in-boldface-type "L-I-A-R" liar.

Those of us who covered the 1993 NAFTA debate have frequently expressed doubts about the former First Lady's recent statements. We never heard anything at the time about her dissenting from the Clinton Administration line on trade policy. And we knew that she had defended NAFTA in the years following its enactment. But fairness required that we at least entertain that notion–promoted by the lamentable David Gergen, himself a champion of free-trade policies while working in the Clinton White House–that Hillary Clinton had been a behind-the-scenes critic. We had to at least consider the possibility that, at the very least, Clinton had been worried that advancing NAFTA would trip up her advocacy for health care reform, that she had made her concerns known and that she had absented herself from pro-NAFTA lobbying.

This was certainly the impression that Clinton and her supporters sought to create as she campaigned in Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana–states where worried workers want to know exactly where the candidates have stood and currently stand with regard to trade issues.

But that impression was a deliberate deception.

And we must all now recognize that when Hillary Clinton speaks about trade policy, she begins with a lie so blatant–that she's been "a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning"–that everything else she says must be viewed as suspect.
blah blah blah…at least she's not a racist wahabi muslim!!!

;)
She might not be, but…

;)
Who here considers themselves to be a "typical white person"?
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Who here considers themselves to be a "typical white person"?
I guess we all are according to Barack Hussein Obama, who obviously is not your typical black person.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Who here considers themselves to be a "typical white person"?
i like 55 of 90 on stuff white people like. pretty average?
Richardson endorses Obama

Hispanic governor says presidential hopeful a 'once-in-a-lifetime leader'

The Associated Press
updated 9:02 a.m. ET, Fri., March. 21, 2008
SANTA FE, New Mexico - New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, the nation's only Hispanic governor, is endorsing Sen. Barack Obama for president, calling him a "once-in-a- lifetime leader" who can unite the nation and restore America's international leadership.

Richardson, who dropped out of the Democratic race in January, is to appear with Obama on Friday at a campaign event in Portland, Ore., The Associated Press has learned.

The governor's endorsement comes as Obama leads among delegates selected at primaries and caucuses but with national public opinion polling showing Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton pulling ahead of him amid controversy over statements by his former pastor.

Richardson has been relentlessly wooed by Obama and Clinton for his endorsement. As a Democratic superdelegate, the governor plays a part in the tight race for nominating votes and could bring other superdelegates to Obama's side. He also has been mentioned as a potential running mate for either candidate.

No primaries are scheduled until Pennsylvania's on April 22, a gap in time Obama hopes to use for such announcements to assert that he is the front-runner for the nomination.

'Once-in-a-lifetime leader'
"I believe he is the kind of once-in-a-lifetime leader that can bring our nation together and restore America's moral leadership in the world," Richardson said in a statement obtained by the AP. "As a presidential candidate, I know full well Sen. Obama's unique moral ability to inspire the American people to confront our urgent challenges at home and abroad in a spirit of bipartisanship and reconciliation."

Richardson's endorsement also could help Obama pick up support among Hispanics, who are the nation's largest and fastest-growing minority.

Clinton has been the favorite of Hispanics in primaries and caucuses, according to exit polls. She won the New Mexico caucus in early February with a nearly 2-to-1 advantage among Hispanics.

Richardson backed Obama despite his ties to Clinton and her husband, the former president. He served as ambassador to the U.N. and as secretary of the Energy Department during the Clinton administration. Last month, Richardson and former President Clinton watched the Super Bowl together at the governor's residence in Santa Fe.

Clinton a 'distinguished leader'
Richardson praised Hillary Clinton as a "distinguished leader with vast experience." But the governor said Obama "will be a historic and great president, who can bring us the change we so desperately need by bringing us together as a nation here at home and with our allies abroad."

Richardson was a roving diplomatic troubleshooter when he was a congressman from New Mexico, negotiating the release of U.S. hostages in several countries and meeting with a rogue's gallery of U.S. adversaries, including Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro.

"There is no doubt in my mind that Barack Obama has the judgment and courage we need in a commander in chief when our nation's security is on the line. He showed this judgment by opposing the Iraq war from the start, and he has show it during this campaign by standing up for a new era in American leadership internationally," Richardson said.

Obama said he was "deeply honored" to have Richardson's support.

"Whether it's fighting to end the Iraq war or stop the genocide in Darfur or prevent nuclear weapons from falling into the hands of terrorists, Gov. Richardson has been a powerful voice on issues of global security, peace and justice, earning five Nobel Peace Prize nominations," Obama said in a statement.
i honestly used to want the repubs to have to take on hillary in the general election. now i want obama…this is coming from a typical white person.
Originally posted by manimtired:
i honestly used to want the repubs to have to take on hillary in the general election. now i want obama…this is coming from a typical white person.
The repubs are with you on that one.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Richardson endorses Obama

Hispanic governor says presidential hopeful a 'once-in-a-lifetime leader'
I think this could be the beginning of a slew of party leaders announcing support, to avoid a total clusterfuck disaster in Michigan and Florida.
One thing I don't get is how Hillary supporters think she's somehow above getting totally bitchslapped by Republicans. What does she have (besides 2 years more experience) that insulates her, in your opinion?

Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by manimtired:
i honestly used to want the repubs to have to take on hillary in the general election. now i want obama…this is coming from a typical white person.
The repubs are with you on that one.
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by manimtired:
i honestly used to want the repubs to have to take on hillary in the general election. now i want obama…this is coming from a typical white person.
The repubs are with you on that one.
i know..i am one
Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by manimtired:
i honestly used to want the repubs to have to take on hillary in the general election. now i want obama…this is coming from a typical white person.
The repubs are with you on that one.
i know..i am one
I never have been but if Obama becomes the dems candidate I may just have to come to the dark side too!!!
Originally posted by nkotb:
One thing I don't get is how Hillary supporters think she's somehow above getting totally bitchslapped by Republicans. What does she have (besides 2 years more experience) that insulates her, in your opinion?

Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by manimtired:
i honestly used to want the repubs to have to take on hillary in the general election. now i want obama…this is coming from a typical white person.
The repubs are with you on that one.
All Hillary's dirty laundry is already out, thanks to her husbands spell in the Whitehouse for the most part.

The repubs don't really have any crap they can throw at her that hasn't already been thrown, but they'll dig everything up on him, and I just have a feeling his racist preacher is only the tip of the iceberg of Mr. Obama's dirty little secrets.
I can see that, but don't things like the release of her White House records (the NAFTA post above and the reports that she was in the WH during some of the trysts) add new fodder to old issues? Seems those are prime targets for attack.

Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
All Hillary's dirty laundry is already out, thanks to her husbands spell in the Whitehouse for the most part.

The repubs don't really have any crap they can throw at her that hasn't already been thrown, but they'll dig everything up on him, and I just have a feeling his racist preacher is only the tip of the iceberg of Mr. Obama's dirty little secrets.
Originally posted by callat703:
Hillary Clinton, liar:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=300860

Depends on what your definition of liar is.

I would say a liar is a person who makes statements that deviate from and perverts the truth. If you were to take the time to read her statements carefully, instead of attacking her, you will see that she did not do this. I would characterize Hillary's statements as "negligently deceptive." Now, over the course of a campaign its only natural that candidates with a proven history of SOLUTIONS and RESULTS would make negligently deceptive statements. This isn't a campaign of baseless hopes and dreams and balloons and lollipops. Maybe in Candlyland everyone's statements are understood perfectly. But here in reality this is just another example of the left wing media victimizing Mrs. Clinton.
Originally posted by Mobius:
Originally posted by callat703:
Hillary Clinton, liar:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=300860

Depends on what your definition of liar is.

I would say a liar is a person who makes statements that deviate from and perverts the truth. If you were to take the time to read her statements carefully, instead of attacking her, you will see that she did not do this. I would characterize Hillary's statements as "negligently deceptive." Now, over the course of a campaign its only natural that candidates with a proven history of SOLUTIONS and RESULTS would make negligently deceptive statements. This isn't a campaign of baseless hopes and dreams and balloons and lollipops. Maybe in Candlyland everyone's statements are understood perfectly. But here in reality this is just another example of the left wing media victimizing Mrs. Clinton.
Mobius, you're really Mark Penn, aren't you?
Ah….context:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/


The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wrightâ??s 9/11 sermon
Posted: 10:09 AM ET

As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. Iâ??ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.

I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, â??The Day of Jerusalemâ??s Fall.â? It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.

One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned â??chickens coming home to roost.â? He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reaganâ??s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. Thatâ??s what he told the congregation.

He was quoting Peck as saying that Americaâ??s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

â??We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

â??We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

â??We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

â??We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

â??We bombed Qaddafiâ??s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your childrenâ??s head against the rock.

â??We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that theyâ??d never get back home.

â??We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

â??Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

â??We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. Americaâ??s chickens are coming home to roost.

â??Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that yâ??all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded donâ??t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.â?


He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

â??What is the state of your family?â? he asked.

And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.

His sermon thesis:

1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they wonâ??t put me on PBS or national cable for what Iâ??m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

â??We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,â? he said.

Wright then said we canâ??t stop messing over people and thinking they canâ??t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.

â??Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nationâ??s healthcare system that leaves the nationâ??s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.â?

3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said â??God damn America.â? Iâ??m not sure which sermon that came from.

This doesnâ??t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.

And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.

So stay tuned.
Originally posted by callat703:
Ah….context:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/


The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wrightâ??s 9/11 sermon
Posted: 10:09 AM ET

As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. Iâ??ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.

I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, â??The Day of Jerusalemâ??s Fall.â? It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.

One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned â??chickens coming home to roost.â? He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reaganâ??s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. Thatâ??s what he told the congregation.

He was quoting Peck as saying that Americaâ??s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

â??We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

â??We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

â??We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

â??We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

â??We bombed Qaddafiâ??s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your childrenâ??s head against the rock.

â??We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that theyâ??d never get back home.

â??We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

â??Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

â??We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. Americaâ??s chickens are coming home to roost.

â??Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that yâ??all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded donâ??t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.â?


He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

â??What is the state of your family?â? he asked.

And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.

His sermon thesis:

1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they wonâ??t put me on PBS or national cable for what Iâ??m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

â??We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,â? he said.

Wright then said we canâ??t stop messing over people and thinking they canâ??t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.

â??Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nationâ??s healthcare system that leaves the nationâ??s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.â?

3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said â??God damn America.â? Iâ??m not sure which sermon that came from.

This doesnâ??t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.

And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.

So stay tuned.
hahaha…lol. nice try.
Originally posted by callat703:
Ah….context:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/


The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wrightâ??s 9/11 sermon
Posted: 10:09 AM ET

As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. Iâ??ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.

I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, â??The Day of Jerusalemâ??s Fall.â? It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.

One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned â??chickens coming home to roost.â? He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reaganâ??s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. Thatâ??s what he told the congregation.

He was quoting Peck as saying that Americaâ??s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

â??We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

â??We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

â??We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

â??We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

â??We bombed Qaddafiâ??s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your childrenâ??s head against the rock.

â??We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that theyâ??d never get back home.

â??We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

â??Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

â??We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. Americaâ??s chickens are coming home to roost.

â??Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that yâ??all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded donâ??t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.â?


He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

â??What is the state of your family?â? he asked.

And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.

His sermon thesis:

1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they wonâ??t put me on PBS or national cable for what Iâ??m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

â??We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,â? he said.

Wright then said we canâ??t stop messing over people and thinking they canâ??t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.

â??Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nationâ??s healthcare system that leaves the nationâ??s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.â?

3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said â??God damn America.â? Iâ??m not sure which sermon that came from.

This doesnâ??t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.

And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.

So stay tuned.
hahaha…lol. nice try.