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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Personally I wouldnt want my leader telling me he loved us and wanting to wrap us up in his arms…..Thats probably what he woulda told Osama Bin Laden as they drank milk together and to Sadaam as he sets him free to go back home to Iraq.

what the hell are you talking about?

Originally posted by sonickteam2:

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Personally I wouldnt want my leader telling me he loved us and wanting to wrap us up in his arms…..Thats probably what he woulda told Osama Bin Laden as they drank milk together and to Sadaam as he sets him free to go back home to Iraq.

what the hell are you talking about?

Try to keep up.

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Is this the same as the Moderate Republicans?

Moderate republicans are usually fiscally conservative and socially liberal. These people should have been voting for Kerry, but didnt. Although fiscal conservatives did not really have much of a choice this time.

The Democratic Party is the party of Michael Moore, millionaire rock stars, lawyers, and snotty intellectual progressives.

The snotty intellectual progressives need to spend less time making fun of rural NASCAR loving blue collar working class social conservatives, and embrace them and give them a bigger say in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party needs to be more the party of the working man and less the party of I dunno what it even stands for now.

The next Democratic nominee needs to be Southern, he (not she) needs to be a Governor and not a Senator or Congressman, and, like Clinton, needs to come from humble working class roots.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Try to keep up.

are you calling John Kerry a terrorist? are you making smart remarks at me because you can't explain your foolish posts? are you smoking crack with flawd?

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When first entering the Middle East, the True American traveler may at first be alarmed to see men who appear to be of Muslim orientation. Do not panic. In some cases, young Muslim men are not terrorists. Treat the man with respect and attempt to engage him in conversation. Explain to him calmly and respectfully that Allah is a false god, and that he should consider converting to a different, superior religion. Tell him the good news about Jesus Christ and let him know that there is no need to be jealous of Americans, as we are actively working to make his country just like the United States.

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May the source be with you.

Thanks smackie! Finally your useless carreer has yielded some useful information!

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by chaz:
Each state has it's own laws stating who can and can't vote. I don't know them all by heart, but in some states even incarcerated felons can vote.

Permitted to vote while incarcerated:
ME, VT

Voting restored after release from incarceration:
HI, IL, IN, MA, MI, MT, NH, ND, OH, OR, PA, SD, UT

Voting restored after release from incarceration and completion of parole (probationers may vote):
CA, CO, CT, NY

Voting restored after completion of sentence, including parole and probation:
AK, AR, GA, ID, KS, LA, MN, MO, NJ, NM, NC, OK, RI, SC, TX, WV, WI

Voting restored after completion of sentence for first felony, permanently disfranchised for at least some second felonies:
AZ, MD

Voting restored for certain ex-offenders convicted of felonies, others permanently disfranchised:
AL, DE, NV, WY

Voting restored after completion of sentence, except those convicted of felonies before a certain date who are permanently disfranchised:
TN (pre-1986 disenfranchised), WA (pre-1984 disenfranchised)

All convicted of felonies permanently disfranchised:
FL, IA, KY, MS, NE, VA

(I just had training on all of this)

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I think that's a Margaret Mead quote. Boy did she get the Samoans wrong…

Originally posted by marquee smith:
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The Democratic Party is the party of Michael Moore, millionaire rock stars, lawyers, and snotty intellectual progressives.

The snotty intellectual progressives need to spend less time making fun of rural NASCAR loving blue collar working class social conservatives, and embrace them and give them a bigger say in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party needs to be more the party of the working man and less the party of I dunno what it even stands for now.

The next Democratic nominee needs to be Southern, he (not she) needs to be a Governor and not a Senator or Congressman, and, like Clinton, needs to come from humble working class roots.

The problem started with Michael Moore and him associating himself with the Democratic party. He's too on the fringe. Notice he was never tabbed to speak at any Kerry/Edwards events. He's just a loudmouth who is in it for attention.

And since when did the Republican party become the party of the working class? Someone help me here. Bush certainly isn't from working class roots either.

Originally posted by pollard:

Originally posted by vansmack:
Edwards did little for your electoral college, the party had already let you down in the South, but with Gephardt, you likely gain the 11 EC votes in Missouri, where he is beloved.

Gephardt is not beloved, he is from the blue collar part of st. louis, which means he is not liked by the wealthy parts of st. louis and he is from st. louis, so he is not liked by the rest of missouri

sorry smackie, but pollard is right on this one (no matter what gregg easterbrook thinks). gephardt is pretty despised through most of missouri. . and with a big governor's race this year, i don't think having gephardt would have helped at all.

also. . there's one reason gore lost in 2000: he failed to carry his home state. if he carries tennessee, he wins (if i've done my addition correctly). edwards failed to carry his home state as well. what does that possibly say about the democratic party? i agree that if the democrats put up a southerner, it has to be governor. senators can be linked to washington (and the liberal democrat establishment - rightly or wrongly), and that's never a good thing to a southerner, who still believes in states rights.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:

Originally posted by sonickteam2:

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Personally I wouldnt want my leader telling me he loved us and wanting to wrap us up in his arms…..Thats probably what he woulda told Osama Bin Laden as they drank milk together and to Sadaam as he sets him free to go back home to Iraq.

what the hell are you talking about?

Try to keep up.

This is the problem. Why do people buy into this rhetoric thinking that Kerry would have been lax on terrorism and the like. This is bullshit. Remember, this is the guy who actually saw combat, and not hide from it. Just because he came back and thought the war in Vietnam was wrong, doesn't make him soft. It makes him look intelligent, like he can absorb information and change his mind. Instead of the alternative and staying the course, not admitting any fault, or that anything is wrong.

Missouri was electing Dems to state office until this year when for the first time in 80 years Missouri voters put the Republican Party in charge of the Governor's Mansion, the state House and the state Senate. So I agree, the only way to win a southern state with a dem presidential candidate is to have it be somebody who has recently held state office.

Originally posted by pollard:
Missouri was electing Dems to state office until this year when for the first time in 80 years Missouri voters put the Republican Party in charge of the Governor's Mansion, the state House and the state Senate. So I agree, the only way to win a southern state with a dem presidential candidate is to have it be somebody who has recently held state office.

yep. . .louisiana for the first since reconstruction sent a republican to the senate, georgia gave both houses of the state legislature to the republicans, they won the governor's race 2 years ago (since reconstruction as well, i think), and oklahoma gave both state houses to the republicans for the first time in its history. while the south is trending republican, there are still enough southern, conservative democrats that can get elected as governor.

Originally posted by sonickteam2:

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Try to keep up.

are you calling John Kerry a terrorist? are you making smart remarks at me because you can't explain your foolish posts? are you smoking crack with flawd?

Ok, Medusa said that she liked the fact that Kerry said I love you to the crowd and something like he wanted to hug all of them. I said, I didnt want a president that said he wanted to hug me and that he loved me. Sonick asked what I was talking about. I said, try to keep up meaning I was responding to someone elses post. Sonick then said I said Kerry was a terrorist. I don't remember saying that but if that's what everyone got of it then I don't know what to say. As for the "crack" drugs comment Sonick, I'll just leave that one alone cause It's too easy to respond to. ;)

Originally posted by hitman:
Just because he came back and thought the war in Vietnam was wrong, doesn't make him soft. It makes him look intelligent, like he can absorb information and change his mind. Instead of the alternative and staying the course, not admitting any fault, or that anything is wrong.

this is what i saw in Kerry. Sure, he changed his mind, and i understand that being a good leader, its hard to make decisions and then go back on them, but i think Bush is the complete opposite where he may make a bad decision and then stick with it as it gets worse.

there should be a middle ground between being wishy washy (Kerry) and stubborn and pig headed (Bush)

Nader would've pulled out of Iraq cause there are no trees there anyway.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Personally I wouldnt want my leader telling me he loved us and wanting to wrap us up in his arms…..Thats probably what he woulda told Osama Bin Laden as they drank milk together and to Sadaam as he sets him free to go back home to Iraq.

sounds like you are calling him a terrorist to me

or at least someone who is friends with them (and according to Bush, if you are friends with terrorists, then you are one)

i thought you liked Kerry? thats what you said the other day.

Originally posted by sonickteam2:

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Personally I wouldnt want my leader telling me he loved us and wanting to wrap us up in his arms…..Thats probably what he woulda told Osama Bin Laden as they drank milk together and to Sadaam as he sets him free to go back home to Iraq.

sounds like you are calling him a terrorist to me

or at least someone who is friends with them (and according to Bush, if you are friends with terrorists, then you are one)

i thought you liked Kerry? thats what you said the other day.

Damn you are a quick responder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!