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Originally posted by redsock:
He has indirectly caused a lot of hardship in my family's lives, and I don't see any of that changing.
dude, dont even bother. Republicans with nice jobs and happy lives expect that everyone else should be able to attain the same goals and make the same happy lives as them.

trust me i have tried.

I tried explaining the bad economy to my friend who is in college paid for by his dad who also pays him a hefty salary to work at his optometry office. Economy seems fine to him!
I have never voted for a Republican.

Yet, ironically, my life has very much improved with Republicans in office.

I found it difficult to find employment during the Clinton years (I had to move to North Carolina to find a full time teaching job), though I finally landed my current job during the second Clinton administration. I've seen my salary increase by 80% in 7 years, and much of it during the Bush administration.

Yes, the unemploment rate has increased a bit during Bush's tenure. But not here in DC. The DC economy is quite strong. Blaming your lack of a job on the Bush administration seems like bullshit to me. When I couldn't find a job for two years, I certainly didn't blame it on the President. Get more training/education, be willing to move across the country for a job, or accept something less than desirable and work your way up.
I know when this contract runs out for me, I'll be looking for a new job. I surely won't look for one that pays me what I get now, I'd be looking for years. I'll just take whatever job I get offered and work with it……Not blame it on the President. Even If I have to work at 7-11, at least it's a job. That's why I save money, for times like that.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:

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and i am hoping the economy will turn around, I will earn more money, and some tax cuts would be nice. cause i guess Kerry wouldnt be stopping the war in Iraq anyway, esp not with a Rep house and senate… [/QB]

Yeah, unfortunetely even if Kerry is elected, tax cuts probably are not gonna happen. But I don't even think about taxes, I don't look at them on my pay stub, If I did, then I would be worrying about it everyday like everyone else. [/QB]

More tax cuts are not needed…
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Originally posted by econo:
Seriously, when have the Brits ever liked us?

Originally posted by grotty:
When I was in London last week, I heard this more than once:

"Right now we are just blaming Bush. But, if he's re-elected, the blame will shift to the American people."
What I can tell you is that 5 years ago most Europeans liked or at least respected a lot the US. Right now things have changed dramatically. More than 50% of Americans see Bush as a honest guy, almost no one in Europe can't believe it.

What Europeans can't understand is that a blowjob in the Oval Office is enough to impeach a president, however, a very probable set of lies over Irak (and the resulting 1000 US casualties and between 15,000 and 100,000 Iraki deaths) don't mean anything. This is just scary.
Agreed…
Originally posted by hitman:
More tax cuts are not needed… [/QB]
Exactly.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I have never voted for a Republican.

Yet, ironically, my life has very much improved with Republicans in office.

I found it difficult to find employment during the Clinton years (I had to move to North Carolina to find a full time teaching job), though I finally landed my current job during the second Clinton administration. I've seen my salary increase by 80% in 7 years, and much of it during the Bush administration.

Yes, the unemploment rate has increased a bit during Bush's tenure. But not here in DC. The DC economy is quite strong. Blaming your lack of a job on the Bush administration seems like bullshit to me. When I couldn't find a job for two years, I certainly didn't blame it on the President. Get more training/education, be willing to move across the country for a job, or accept something less than desirable and work your way up.
I'm not blaming my lack of a new job on Bush, i'm just saying that if the economy was better in general, and it has slumped during his administration for whatever reasons, it would make thigns easier. Believe me i'm not trying to pass the buck. My other examples are far more related directly to Bush.
And your brother who is fighting in Iraq….he didn't get drafted did he?

Surely anybody who voluntarily signs up for the military/national guard does so knowing that he/she may end up fighting in a war, right?

My sympathies regarding your mother, and my positive vibes for the safely of your brother…
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by Barcelona:


What Europeans can't understand is that a blowjob in the Oval Office is enough to impeach a president
What Europeans need to understand is that a blowjob in the Oval Office WASN'T enough to impeach a president. [/QB]
He was impeached for lying under oath about it…The same thing any other man in that position would have done, right or wrong. But lying about WMD's and going to war over it, hasn't cost anyone their jobs. Go figure.
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by hitman:
only 17% of registered voters 18-30 years old showed up yesterday…

how fucking embarrassing….
I think you've interpreted the numbers incorrectly. 18-30 year olds only acccounted for 17% of all voters. Identical to 2000.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of them actually showed up though. The Dems were banking on more. Guess The Boss and PJ didn't work hard enough….
I could've interpreted it wrong, but that is the way it was presented on the Today show this morning.
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Now looking into the future. Can we expect a more humble Bush Administration or are we going to face the same arrogance we have seen these first four years?
you're kidding right ?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And your brother who is fighting in Iraq….he didn't get drafted did he?

Surely anybody who voluntarily signs up for the military/national guard does so knowing that he/she may end up fighting in a war, right?

My sympathies regarding your mother, and my positive vibes for the safely of your brother…
Last time I checked, the Alabama National Guard was promoting one weekend a month, two weeks a year. You are right that the possibility always exists, but sending National Guard troops ahead of folks who actually signed on for this sort of thing is something I will never understand. We won't go into the extentions on length of service they are given for whatever reason.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I know when this contract runs out for me, I'll be looking for a new job. I surely won't look for one that pays me what I get now, I'd be looking for years. I'll just take whatever job I get offered and work with it……Not blame it on the President. Even If I have to work at 7-11, at least it's a job. That's why I save money, for times like that.
my point proven exactly.
Originally posted by hitman:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Now looking into the future. Can we expect a more humble Bush Administration or are we going to face the same arrogance we have seen these first four years?
you're kidding right ?
Just hoping, maybe they realize how divided the US and the world are becoming. Even though they have a 3 million vote advantage on the popular vote, I hope they will realize that the country is more divided than in 2000.

As for Rob Gee's comment on the impeachment, I decided a long time ago not to respond to his posts, a waste of time.
Originally posted by Barcelona:

As for Rob Gee's comment on the impeachment, I decided a long time ago not to respond to his posts, a waste of time.
correct.
for the most part.
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Is it too early to start drinking?
Nope. Here's to my liver surviving 4 more years.
Originally posted by Barcelona:
As for Rob Gee's comment on the impeachment, I decided a long time ago not to respond to his posts, a waste of time. [/QB]
You hurt my feelings. :roll:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Barcelona:

As for Rob Gee's comment on the impeachment, I decided a long time ago not to respond to his posts, a waste of time.
correct.
for the most part.
I thought you 2 were pals after Curiosa. What'd I miss?
He did say "for the most part", so deep down inside, we might still be "pals". :)
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
He did say "for the most part", so deep down inside, we might still be "pals". :)
yes, Rob is an American republican yankee fan, but we all have our faults. :)

i still long the day i see him again….