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Starsky wrote:
Arlington voters approved a $23 million bond to support schools and Mary Kadera was elected to the Arlington School Board.
Probably will impact my life more than anything Youngkin does…
agree on #1, not 100% sure on #2, but we'll see after your wife is wearing the outfit from The Handmaid's Tale
will i be able to grow weed in va next summer?
notme wrote:
will i be able to grow weed in va next summer?
At least until July 1st. With the existence of Chap Peterson and a GOP Lt Gov, I wouldn’t take it for granted past that.
In New Jersey, Jack Ciaterelli’s campaign was tenacious.  For months and months every time I turned on the TV there was Jack telling me New Jersey is broken and only he can fix it. It seemed like every time  I watched a YouTube video there was a Jack4NJ ad with Jack telling me Phil Murphy just doesn’t get it in front of a grotesque picture of Phil Murphy. It was an onslaught

In early ads he came across as a pure a-hole so they pivoted to ads with him in a pink shirt high fiving women and minorities.

When I walked outside, there were Jack signs, pamphlets . . .

Meanwhile, I saw a Phil Murphy ad on TV about once a month. Never got a targeted ad on YouTube or elsewhere on the internet from him.  Never saw signs.

On Election Day, there were rows of 100s of Jack signs along the Highway.  A few barely legible Murphy signs lost in the sea of Jack signs .

Tactically, the Dems got crushed. It made you wonder if they were even trying. Which is the story of the Dems - in congress, in the media, in controlling narratives - everywhere today it seems

Mobius wrote:
In New Jersey, Jack Ciaterelli’s campaign was tenacious.  For months and months every time I turned on the TV there was Jack telling me New Jersey is broken and only he can fix it. It seemed like every time  I watched a YouTube video there was a Jack4NJ ad with Jack telling me Phil Murphy just doesn’t get it in front of a grotesque picture of Phil Murphy. It was an onslaught

In early ads he came across as a pure a-hole so they pivoted to ads with him in a pink shirt high fiving women and minorities.

When I walked outside, there were Jack signs, pamphlets . . .

Meanwhile, I saw a Phil Murphy ad on TV about once a month. Never got a targeted ad on YouTube or elsewhere on the internet from him.  Never saw signs.

On Election Day, there were rows of 100s of Jack signs along the Highway.  A few barely legible Murphy signs lost in the sea of Jack signs .

Tactically, the Dems got crushed. It made you wonder if they were even trying. Which is the story of the Dems - in congress, in the media, in controlling narratives - everywhere today it seems


This article from October 25 says the spending  in  New Jersey was about equal. So I would say there's three possibilties for the phenomenom that you are seeing.

1. You're a white male who watches lots of typical white male tv shows and sports and the Republicans are targeting their denmographic with their ads.

2. The Koch Brothers/ Russians are funding the Republican advertising, with lots of unreported spending.

3. The Republicans have lots more yard signs up because they're the ones with the yards.





https://apnews.com/article/business-elections-new-jersey-election-2020-phil-murphy-3d00183523c21301c03b8d32fa82a934


TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey’s Republican candidate for governor Jack Ciattarelli has nearly matched incumbent Democrat Phil Murphy’s spending in the election so far, though the governor has about five times more cash on hand going into the final week of campaigning.

Ciattarelli has spent about $12.4 million so far with Murphy expending nearly $12.6 million, according to the latest data from the Election Law Enforcement Commission. Murphy as $3.5 million cash on hand compared with nearly $700,000 for Ciattarelli. The governor has brought in more than $16 million compared with $13.1 million for Ciattarelli in the period between the June primary and Oct. 19.
Space wrote:
3. The Republicans have lots more yard signs up because they're the ones with the yards.
Lee Carter is famously anti-yard.
this basically happened in MD when Hogan won the first time… the Dem Anthony Brown (he was O'Malley's Lt. Governor) must have just assumed he was getting elected and I hardly saw any signs, etc from him during the general.  during the primaries it was an entirely different story, signs everywhere so as often is the case in MD the primary is the real election.. when I voted during the general there was no line at all in the evening at a PG county polling site, so guess a bunch of Dem voters assumed he was a lock and stayed home..  Hogan campaigned on his BS Water Tax platform and swayed a bunch of Baltimore County voters in his direction
Democrats like to believe if everyone voted Democrats would always win….
Starsky wrote:
Democrats like to believe if everyone voted Democrats would always win….
because it's true
This is one of your core beliefs.



And it’s wrong….


1. You're a white male who watches lots of typical white male tv shows and sports and the Republicans are targeting their denmographic with their ads.


But if white males are leaning GOP, shouldn’t it be a priority for Dems to target them? To counterpunch?
Mobius wrote:
1. You're a white male who watches lots of typical white male tv shows and sports and the Republicans are targeting their denmographic with their ads.


But if white males are leaning GOP, shouldn’t it be a priority for Dems to target them? To counterpunch?


Modern American politics is about getting your base out… energizing your base

Something Terry McAuliffe absolutely did not do. I hope we can agree on that… He gave me no reason to vote for him other than his pathetic resort to linking Youngkin with Trump

Do we need to reach out to independent voters? Of course but it’s not the priority. You wouldn’t want to lose your base by going after the middle.

It just depends on how we define that group.

Someone will doubtlessly jump in and say energizing the Democratic base is what Bernie does but I disagree. The Democratic base is not progressive voters.



Starsky wrote:

Something Terry McAuliffe absolutely did not do. I hope we can agree on that… He gave me no reason to vote for him other than his pathetic resort to linking Youngkin with Trump
I can agree with you on this
so is the blame on the 500K who didn't show up or that Terry-Katie-perry team couldn't figure out how to reach them and motivate them to show up
Starsky wrote:
Mobius wrote:
1. You're a white male who watches lots of typical white male tv shows and sports and the Republicans are targeting their denmographic with their ads.


But if white males are leaning GOP, shouldn’t it be a priority for Dems to target them? To counterpunch?


Modern American politics is about getting your base out… energizing your base

Something Terry McAuliffe absolutely did not do. I hope we can agree on that… He gave me no reason to vote for him other than his pathetic resort to linking Youngkin with Trump

Do we need to reach out to independent voters? Of course but it’s not the priority. You wouldn’t want to lose your base by going after the middle.

It just depends on how we define that group.

Someone will doubtlessly jump in and say energizing the Democratic base is what Bernie does but I disagree. The Democratic base is not progressive voters.


Just who are the Democratic and Republican bases these days?
Luciferase-hatch wrote:
Starsky wrote:

Something Terry McAuliffe absolutely did not do. I hope we can agree on that… He gave me no reason to vote for him other than his pathetic resort to linking Youngkin with Trump
I can agree with you on this
so is the blame on the 500K who didn't show up or that Terry-Katie-perry team couldn't figure out how to reach them and motivate them to show up


I just disagree with your approach of always blaming people for not voting.

In the US you don’t have to vote.

I would say the blame for Terry’s loss falls about 50% on Terry and 50% on Biden. I think that’s fair
Space wrote:
Starsky wrote:
Mobius wrote:
1. You're a white male who watches lots of typical white male tv shows and sports and the Republicans are targeting their denmographic with their ads.


But if white males are leaning GOP, shouldn’t it be a priority for Dems to target them? To counterpunch?


Modern American politics is about getting your base out… energizing your base

Something Terry McAuliffe absolutely did not do. I hope we can agree on that… He gave me no reason to vote for him other than his pathetic resort to linking Youngkin with Trump

Do we need to reach out to independent voters? Of course but it’s not the priority. You wouldn’t want to lose your base by going after the middle.

It just depends on how we define that group.

Someone will doubtlessly jump in and say energizing the Democratic base is what Bernie does but I disagree. The Democratic base is not progressive voters.


Just who are the Democratic and Republican bases these days?


Well that’s a complex question…

Progressive voters are an important part of the Democratic base.
Luciferase-hatch wrote:
Starsky wrote:

Something Terry McAuliffe absolutely did not do. I hope we can agree on that… He gave me no reason to vote for him other than his pathetic resort to linking Youngkin with Trump
I can agree with you on this
so is the blame on the 500K who didn't show up or that Terry-Katie-perry team couldn't figure out how to reach them and motivate them to show up


The reason why Youngkin won was because a good share of anti-Trunmp voters voted for Youngkin because they weren't happy with the perceived left wing turn they believe education has taken and because Youngkin was able to distance himself enough publically from Trump, even if he was talking to him on the phone all the time.
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Starsky wrote:
I just disagree with your approach of always blaming people for not voting.

so I do get it, but fuck them…they are willing to support dem policies when it's coinvent and I'm sure complain when the GOP takes charge
Voting in VA in 2021 was about as easy as it could get
I think if you could ask those 500k biden voters if they could do nov 2nd over again, they would vote for Terry-the-I-don't-know-what-you-stand-for-but-you-are-a-dem-and-not-GQP in a heart beat…at least 3 out of 4.

I'm sure they will bitch and moan when there are Gun Trucks on every corner, their kids are having to memorize bible verses for their weekly pop quiz and their daughters are getting virginity checks