Gastronomical Banter

Awesome!  Thanks!  Have been to busboys, but haven't really ventured out much yet.  Started working here in Feb!
I love it that Chipotle rounds down your check to the nearest 5-cent increment so they don't have to deal with pennies.  I'm sure they get some smartass who wants to pay with all pennies every once in a while, but their cashiers never have to give out pennies as change.
That article is ridiculous.  Chipotle has done more to elevate the concept of fast food than any other company in 60 years.  Wouldn't you be better off eating at Chipotle every day than rotating between McDonalds, Taco Bell, KFC, Wendy's and Arby's?  Let's take it point by point.

1. Does Chipotle support genetically modified organisms (GMOs)?
Scare tactic.  There's no science that indicates GMOs are dangerous.  None.  People don't understand what GMOs are and buy into new age BS claiming they're going to turn into aliens if they eat it.  Guess what.  You're already eating GMOs, it doesn't do anything bad and there's nothing you can do about it.

2. Do Chipotle pigs, chickens, and cows frolic in big grassy fields?
No.  Neither does anybody else's meat pets, unless you grow your own or buy from Polyface.  Did anybody think that their cartoon was a documentary?

3. Are most Chipotle ingredients locally sourced?
Nope.  you wouldn't want to eat a burrito in January in Minnesota made from locally sourced ingredients.  Its a national chain.

4. Does Chipotle ever use animals that are given antibiotics ?
Yep.  You also wouldn't want to eat meat that wasn't treated with antibiotics.  You might be OK for a while, but if we completely eliminated antibiotics from the meat industry, we'd have, well, a diseased meat industry.  And people would get sick.  Lots of people.  Then there would only be the memory of meat.  Then people would wish we would add antibiotics back to meat.  But it would be too late.

5. Is most Chipotle food organic?
Probly not.  Also, doesn't matter.  Most people don't know what organic means, and even the ones who do, don't actually eat organic food all the time.  If they think they're getting organic fast food, they're wrong.  They should grow their own organic food.  Bonus fact:  it would be locally sourced.  Downside:  They'd get sick of organic ramps really really quickly.
grateful wrote:
That article is ridiculous.  Chipotle has done more to elevate the concept of fast food than any other company in 60 years.  Wouldn't you be better off eating at Chipotle every day than rotating between McDonalds, Taco Bell, KFC, Wendy's and Arby's?  Let's take it point by point.

1. Does Chipotle support genetically modified organisms (GMOs)?
Scare tactic.  There's no science that indicates GMOs are dangerous.  None.  People don't understand what GMOs are and buy into new age BS claiming they're going to turn into aliens if they eat it.  Guess what.  You're already eating GMOs, it doesn't do anything bad and there's nothing you can do about it.

2. Do Chipotle pigs, chickens, and cows frolic in big grassy fields?
No.  Neither does anybody else's meat pets, unless you grow your own or buy from Polyface.  Did anybody think that their cartoon was a documentary?

3. Are most Chipotle ingredients locally sourced?
Nope.  you wouldn't want to eat a burrito in January in Minnesota made from locally sourced ingredients.  Its a national chain.

4. Does Chipotle ever use animals that are given antibiotics ?
Yep.  You also wouldn't want to eat meat that wasn't treated with antibiotics.  You might be OK for a while, but if we completely eliminated antibiotics from the meat industry, we'd have, well, a diseased meat industry.  And people would get sick.  Lots of people.  Then there would only be the memory of meat.  Then people would wish we would add antibiotics back to meat.  But it would be too late.

5. Is most Chipotle food organic?
Probly not.  Also, doesn't matter.  Most people don't know what organic means, and even the ones who do, don't actually eat organic food all the time.  If they think they're getting organic fast food, they're wrong.  They should grow their own organic food.  Bonus fact:  it would be locally sourced.  Downside:  They'd get sick of organic ramps really really quickly.


A+
Chipotle is some of the highest fat, highest calorie fast food out there. Their veggie burrito is like 1000 calories. I don't do fast food aside from the occasional veggie sub, but someone eating the relatively healthiest options at the other fast good places you listed had to be much better off then someone eating chipotle daily.
Julian, wrote:
Chipotle is some of the highest fat, highest calorie fast food out there. Their veggie burrito is like 1000 calories. I don't do fast food aside from the occasional veggie sub, but someone eating the relatively healthiest options at the other fast good places you listed had to be much better off then someone eating chipotle daily.


The meal I get at chipotle has 530 calories.

If you don't load it up with unhealthy items like a fat ass, it's actually quite healthy.
GMO foods are not dangerous in and of themselves, but the primary purpose of the genetic modification is to make the crop pesticide resistant, which leads to steep increases in the use of pesticides.  Pesticides are linked to fun stuff like cancer.
grateful wrote:
Chipotle doesn't sell red herring, but you apparently do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator
i just created a 750 calorie veggie burrito sans cheese, sour cream, and guacamole, of which an actual consumer would get at least one of if not two or three (which pushes it to 1150).

A mcdonalds Big Mac is around 550-600 calories I believe, and could be less if you leave cheese off or neglect to eat the bun – options which only exist in the same bizarro world where someone leaves cheese and sour cream off their burrito to get it down to a "healthy," "slender" 750 calories.

There is no way Chipotle is a healthier option than a salad, baked potato, normal sized cheese burger, or normal taco at Taco Bell.
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Chipotle is some of the highest fat, highest calorie fast food out there. Their veggie burrito is like 1000 calories. I don't do fast food aside from the occasional veggie sub, but someone eating the relatively healthiest options at the other fast good places you listed had to be much better off then someone eating chipotle daily.


The meal I get at chipotle has 530 calories.

If you don't load it up with unhealthy items like a fat ass, it's actually quite healthy.

What are you getting at 530? I'm asking seriously? Are you leaving the tortilla off??
Julian, wrote:
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Chipotle is some of the highest fat, highest calorie fast food out there. Their veggie burrito is like 1000 calories. I don't do fast food aside from the occasional veggie sub, but someone eating the relatively healthiest options at the other fast good places you listed had to be much better off then someone eating chipotle daily.


The meal I get at chipotle has 530 calories.

If you don't load it up with unhealthy items like a fat ass, it's actually quite healthy.

What are you getting at 530? I'm asking seriously? Are you leaving the tortilla off??


Chicken Burrito Bowl with…

Black Beans
White Rice
Fajita Veggies
Tomato Salsa
Lettuce

Julian, wrote:
grateful wrote:
Chipotle doesn't sell red herring, but you apparently do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator
i just created a 750 calorie veggie burrito sans cheese, sour cream, and guacamole, of which an actual consumer would get at least one of if not two or three (which pushes it to 1150).

A mcdonalds Big Mac is around 550-600 calories I believe, and could be less if you leave cheese off or neglect to eat the bun – options which only exist in the same bizarro world where someone leaves cheese and sour cream off their burrito to get it down to a "healthy," "slender" 750 calories.

There is no way Chipotle is a healthier option than a salad, baked potato, normal sized cheese burger, or normal taco at Taco Bell.


The problem is that you're only focusing on calories, not the quality of the food.  You can eat 530 calories of pink slime or 750 in a Chipotle bowl.  Which is healthier?  What if you factor in daily exercise?
I think you're trading one set of health concerns for another. Of course I'll give you Chipotle is "higher quality" food but a 800-1500 calorie burrito for lunch doesn't constitute a good idea no matter how high-quality the food is.

Yes, exercise is a great idea. Exercise + a sandwich or salad for lunch instead of a huge burrito is an even better idea, that's all I'm getting at.
It's all a matter of scale, I guess.  I run 5x per week, and burn 1,000 - 3,000 calories each time.  I'm better off eating high quality food until I'm satisfied.  I also understand that not everybody is in the same situation.
pink slime is gross.
I will eat 300 more calories at Chipotle before I will go to Taco Bell and eat their "just add water" food.  but I also run a TON.
What's the calorie count on half of a falafel wrap from Roti Grill? (a whole one is far too filling).

Until I fucked up my back, calories didn't really matter because I just ran them off.