What Did You Just Buy Tickets To?

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
for high-demand shows, the ones that will sell the majority of their tickets in the first few hours or days, it would make sense to have decreasing tickets prices.  folks that really want to attend and/or insist on good seats, will pay the higher price up front; while those on the fence or with price sensitivity will be willing to wait for a discount.

Don't they already do this?

i'm not aware of this occurring… in general, tickets sell for same price on day 1 as they do on night of the show.  if anything, venues tack on a small day-of price bump, like "$40 advance/$45 at door".

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
for high-demand shows, the ones that will sell the majority of their tickets in the first few hours or days, it would make sense to have decreasing tickets prices.  folks that really want to attend and/or insist on good seats, will pay the higher price up front; while those on the fence or with price sensitivity will be willing to wait for a discount.

Don't they already do this?

i'm not aware of this occurring… in general, tickets sell for same price on day 1 as they do on night of the show.  if anything, venues tack on a small day-of price bump, like "$40 advance/$45 at door".

I was talking about dynamic ticket pricing.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2022/08/17/springsteen-ticketmaster-dynamic-pricing-infuriates-music-fans/10310415002/

I mean every year LN books thousands of shows in sheds that don’t come close to selling out and they make money

The good seats usually sell over time  in most shows…fact nobody bought them in presales doesn’t mean they won’t sell

Point is if a band is playing a venue with 20,000 capacity that doesn’t mean promoter assumes they will sell 18,000 tickets! The offer they make to the act reflects what they think sales will be..Do they get burned once in a while? Sure…but overall they know what they are doing..it’s their ass on line

Starsky wrote:


I mean every year LN books thousands of shows in sheds that don’t come close to selling out and they make money

The good seats usually sell over time  in most shows…fact nobody bought them in presales doesn’t mean they won’t sell

Point is if a band is playing a venue with 20,000 capacity that doesn’t mean promoter assumes they will sell 18,000 tickets! The offer they make to the act reflects what they think sales will be..Do they get burned once in a while? Sure…but overall they know what they are doing..it’s their ass on line

Yeah, I agree with this. 9:30 Club or The National have half-sold-out shows all the time; the fact both venues remain open despite this tells you they aren't taking a bath on every show with <95% attendance.

Anyone catch any of the testimony the member of the band Lawrence gave yesterday in the LiveNation/Ticketmaster hearing?

This probably isn't all of it but I think the key points are made in this bit, including LiveNation charging the band $250 for 10 towels

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1617973515889836035?s=20&t=MIZ0cfzdazvhIaLS__6_RQ

Another important exchange

"There's literally not been a single time in our career where we've played at a Live Nation venue where we had any opportunity to not have Live Nation be the promoter or Ticketmaster be the ticketing company." -
@lawrencetheband


https://twitter.com/econliberties/status/1617923078725722112?s=20&t=MIZ0cfzdazvhIaLS__6_RQ

Julian, wrote:

Starsky wrote:


I mean every year LN books thousands of shows in sheds that don’t come close to selling out and they make money

The good seats usually sell over time&nbsp; in most shows…fact nobody bought them in presales doesn’t mean they won’t sell

Point is if a band is playing a venue with 20,000 capacity that doesn’t mean promoter assumes they will sell 18,000 tickets! The offer they make to the act reflects what they think sales will be..Do they get burned once in a while? Sure…but overall they know what they are doing..it’s their ass on line

Yeah, I agree with this. 9:30 Club or The National have half-sold-out shows all the time; the fact both venues remain open despite this tells you they aren&#039;t taking a bath on every show with &lt;95% attendance.

It's been said a million times before. Nightclub 9:30 makes most of its money selling alcohol. Ticket sales and merch are basically a breakeven.

contradiction wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Starsky wrote:


I mean every year LN books thousands of shows in sheds that don’t come close to selling out and they make money

The good seats usually sell over time&nbsp; in most shows…fact nobody bought them in presales doesn’t mean they won’t sell

Point is if a band is playing a venue with 20,000 capacity that doesn’t mean promoter assumes they will sell 18,000 tickets! The offer they make to the act reflects what they think sales will be..Do they get burned once in a while? Sure…but overall they know what they are doing..it’s their ass on line

Yeah, I agree with this. 9:30 Club or The National have half-sold-out shows all the time; the fact both venues remain open despite this tells you they aren&#039;t taking a bath on every show with &lt;95% attendance.

It&#039;s been said a million times before. Nightclub 9:30 makes most of its money selling alcohol. Ticket sales and merch are basically a breakeven.

Correct. This doesn’t disagree with what I said at all.

sweetcell wrote:
Here&#039;s 52 seconds of senators making Taylor Swift references at the Ticketmaster hearing.

OMG, beautiful

Creep-hatch wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
Here&#039;s 52 seconds of senators making Taylor Swift references at the Ticketmaster hearing.

OMG, beautiful

I don't think I've ever heard a Taylor Swift song. It seems like this might be marginally funny if I had.

contradiction wrote:

Creep-hatch wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
Here&#039;s 52 seconds of senators making Taylor Swift references at the Ticketmaster hearing.

OMG, beautiful

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard a Taylor Swift song. It seems like this might be marginally funny if I had.

You obviously haven't lived with tween girls or Julian for the last decade

Amy K dropping Swifts name was weak though, should have just dropped the reference

contradiction wrote:
I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard a Taylor Swift song.

This is one of those things that someone says thinking its either a feather-for-their-cap or, at worst, benign when actually it betrays they're wildly out of touch. This is a music fan forum – shouldn't you be judged as woefully ignorant if you have not heard a single song (even by accident) of the largest music act of the last two decades? Tell us how you haven't used deodorant since High School next.

Julian, wrote:Tell us how you haven&#039;t used deodorant since High School next.

please don't

National & Soccer Mommy. Looking forward to seeing both of them and the strokes in the same week.

Anyone think they have a pulse on how Beck and Phoenix will sell? September is packed with shows of interest and i'm hesitant to jump on anything additional ATM. Hoping it could be a good DOS decision.

Schulzenstein wrote:
National &amp; Soccer Mommy. Looking forward to seeing both of them and the strokes in the same week.

Anyone think they have a pulse on how Beck and Phoenix will sell? September is packed with shows of interest and i&#039;m hesitant to jump on anything additional ATM. Hoping it could be a good DOS decision.

WAIT WAIT WAIT.

Yada wrote:

Schulzenstein wrote:
National &amp; Soccer Mommy. Looking forward to seeing both of them and the strokes in the same week.

Anyone think they have a pulse on how Beck and Phoenix will sell? September is packed with shows of interest and i&#039;m hesitant to jump on anything additional ATM. Hoping it could be a good DOS decision.

WAIT WAIT WAIT.

Yeah that's my plan. Checked and already have tickets to 2 other shows within the same week.

Schulzenstein wrote:
Anyone think they have a pulse on how Beck and Phoenix will sell?

we'll have a better beat after Friday's on sale, but based on the presale demand appears to be low. unless i pull amazing seats tomorrow, i'll be waiting week-of.

sweetcell wrote:

Schulzenstein wrote:
Anyone think they have a pulse on how Beck and Phoenix will sell?

we&#039;ll have a better beat after Friday&#039;s on sale, but based on the presale demand appears to be low. unless i pull amazing seats tomorrow, i&#039;ll be waiting week-of.

Kid's first concert?

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

Schulzenstein wrote:
Anyone think they have a pulse on how Beck and Phoenix will sell?

we&#039;ll have a better beat after Friday&#039;s on sale, but based on the presale demand appears to be low. unless i pull amazing seats tomorrow, i&#039;ll be waiting week-of.

Kid&#039;s first concert?

nah.  would be nice, but i don't see them sitting through this long of a show. 

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