Live in the Age of Covid19

Julian, wrote:
On it happening or on me flying over there in some weird display of dominance?

Taking offers on it happening - I'll take the "no"

And on Jules flying over there in some weird display of dominance - I'll take the "yes"

folks in beantown are gettin' ready to rawk again:

"On Monday, Massachusetts will move into the second step of Phase 3 of its coronavirus reopening plan, allowing indoor performance venues - like concert halls, theaters and other spaces - to reopen at 50% capacity, with a maximum of 500 people permitted inside."

the economics of artist, promoter and venue making their money on 500 people will be interesting… obviously there is pent-up demand, but are there 500 julians in boston? (julian = desperate to see a show, vax'ed, and willing to pay $$$).  about 15% of the population has had one shot, and a little over 7% have had both.  there are also the unvax'ed who will show up…

I’ve been talking about the Julian Economy for years and you all haven’t been paying attention.

I think most venues need to have full capacity to have shows…and that may be coming…


https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/concerts-2021-limited-capacity-music-1132887/?fbclid=IwAR3hBgIzqmBwVAaOQ7jZ_ykBC_1fPl4HJy8m56OIUi2SbZFcmKRptA4DUZQ

It can be done. Not easy tho and almost certainly not in arenas. Ticket prices will need to absorb more of the overhead. Like a lot more.

I could see paying $150 to see a show at the club under this 25 % capacity and a 2 drink min (with $15 beers)
but I'd probably only go to 1 show every other month at that price (down from 2-4 a month)

Not going to happen

Can anyone imagine club owners like Dante doing this?

Never.


A few dollars more? Sure.

Doubling or tripling prices? Not going to happen

StoneTheCrow wrote:
It can be done. Not easy tho and almost certainly not in arenas. Ticket prices will need to absorb more of the overhead. Like a lot more.

Really wish our fearless leader Seth would hop in to the "Hey Seth" thread for an AMA regarding his thoughts on the current, near, and future state.

Martian-hatch wrote:
I could see paying $150 to see a show at the club under this 25 % capacity and a 2 drink min (with $15 beers)
but I'd probably only go to 1 show every other month at that price (down from 2-4 a month)

Sure, for an "arena" band.  I'd pay that to see The Dead at 9:30

excontradiction wrote:

Martian-hatch wrote:
I could see paying $150 to see a show at the club under this 25 % capacity and a 2 drink min (with $15 beers)
but I'd probably only go to 1 show every other month at that price (down from 2-4 a month)

Sure, for an "arena" band.  I'd pay that to see The Dead at 9:30

I mean… it will just never happen. And in reality, whether there are 250 people in the club or 1,000. My guess is you'd still catch the rona in that environment.

I'm all for the "if you don't have a vaccine, you can't do shit" scenario.

excontradiction wrote:

Martian-hatch wrote:
I could see paying $150 to see a show at the club under this 25 % capacity and a 2 drink min (with $15 beers)
but I'd probably only go to 1 show every other month at that price (down from 2-4 a month)

Sure, for an "arena" band.  I'd pay that to see The Dead at 9:30

I'd pay $150 to see the Viagra Boys at this point
and I was thinking band that would normally draw 700-1000 at the club and charge $35-50 a ticket

Yada wrote:
I'm all for the "if you don't have a vaccine, you can't do shit" scenario.

Kinda thought that was a given for this hypothetical.

excontradiction wrote:
I'd pay that to see The Dead at 9:30

act now, and you can pay that to BE dead - badum tss!!!

sweetcell wrote:

excontradiction wrote:
I'd pay that to see The Dead at 9:30

act now, and you can pay that to BE dead - badum tss!!!

Admittedly, I thought they died a long time ago.

Well you can go see live shows in Texas..zero restrictions

hutch wrote:
Well you can go see live shows in Texas..zero restrictions

Oklahoma next weekend!

might listen to the kojo show for the first time today

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2021-03-04/staging-the-recovery-live-events-a-year-into-the-pandemic

Staging The Recovery: Live Events A Year Into The Pandemic

It was almost a year ago to the date that theaters and live music venues in our region shut down. And while some industries have been able to gradually reopen, that has not generally been the case with live entertainment. That’s where the National Independent Venue Association came in, a coalition started towards the beginning of the pandemic which is now made up of 3,000 independent venues in all 50 states and D.C. The group advocated for the Save Our Stages Act, a part of the end-of-year federal relief package. This allocated a historic $15 billion in grant money to independent arts and culture venues.

But the federal government has not yet accepted applications for this funding, meaning none of the funds have been distributed. Advocates worry it may soon be too late for some venues that have been barely holding on since the start of the pandemic. On top of that, there is continued confusion around which independent arts venues will qualify for these grants.

We’re catching up with local theaters and live music venues to discuss their experiences this past year, and hear about their continued efforts to make ends meet until the day live shows can once again resume.

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if Seth were going to do AMA, I was what was happening with the Save Our Stages act, since I haven't been following to closely but hearing rumblings about it.  there was also so clause in it that seemingly made many venues ineligible due to a requirement of having only fixed seating.

^could not understand


I guess my English has gone to pot

kosmo wrote: there was also so clause in it that seemingly made many venues ineligible due to a requirement of having only fixed seating.

man that is lame, would totally hurt the venues that I support and help the ones I don't

hutch wrote:
^could not understand


I guess my English has gone to pot

We have a thread for that :)

maybe it's a case of the telephone game.. but they way I've heard it any venue with temporary seating wasn't going to qualify for grants… now maybe the intention was to exclude casual venues like community centers, rental halls.. but most non theater venues are going to have some sort of temporary seating…

Pollstar had this to say at the end of the year

https://www.pollstar.com/article/not-saved-by-save-our-stages-majority-of-live-business-will-not-benefit-from-new-relief-bill-147062

the other issue is that they aren't making the grants available yet