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The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

Space Freely
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 01:46 PM UTC #
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hutch wrote:
Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing

How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.
even though I think Biden has done a great job
but feel like he isn't looking as good as himself in 2020 or Hil in 2016

The Maga base is charged….whether that will actually turn into votes is another thing
all focus should be on battleground stages and ignore the other 44

I still can't belive the law and order crowd is lining up to vote for a convicted felon


It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.
beetsnotbeats
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 01:51 PM UTC #
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 07:45 PM UTC #
Yeah, i'm not sure why this is a hard concept for people to get.  It's like the "gotcha" of Republicans railing against the deficit and then exploded said deficit when they're in power.  Just like Biden basically doing everything Trump did with immigration…it's all only bad when it's the other team.

Space wrote:
It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.
Space Freely
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 08:05 PM UTC #
nkotb wrote:
Yeah, i'm not sure why this is a hard concept for people to get.  It's like the "gotcha" of Republicans railing against the deficit and then exploded said deficit when they're in power.  Just like Biden basically doing everything Trump did with immigration…it's all only bad when it's the other team.

Space wrote:
It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.



Is Biden putting kids in cages?
Mobius
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 08:13 PM UTC #
I’ve seen this type of crap at sporting events too.  Home fans are all ‘hurray’ when their team scores and then get upset when the other team scores.  Or they say refs suck when their team gets called for a foul, but then have no problem when the opponent is called for the same foul. It’s outrageous. 
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 08:16 PM UTC #
Well I am curious if under Biden thousands of kids have been separated from their parents?

Also, and I could see it, are people being caged in the same conditions?

Do democrats pay to send illegal immigrants to DC, NYC, Chicago?

I think being a convicted felon will have no impact on his base. That was always a given. It is a cult and as Limbaugh once said “Only Trump can release them”…

But on voters in the middle or undecided or undecided on whether to bother voting for Trump? Yes, I think it will have impact. A lot of voters are older people and they may not quite be as jaded about white collar felonies. In a close election all impact is theoretically determinative. My kid told me Lieberman cost Gore the election in Florida by going after video game manufacturers and instituting the ratings system etc. When the difference is only 547 votes out of millions sure it could be determinative!

I don’t believe the polls at this point. I think Biden will win by a few points but not going to lie that Sabato’s note gave me concern. Biden hasn’t consolidated his base yet. It will happen. The little bit of independents, moderates and undecideds will with go Biden or stay home overwhelmingly. And I don’t think they can count on digging up more of Trump’s base. Those people all voted in 2016 and 2020.
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 08:19 PM UTC #
Come on! Democrats would never have a convicted felon as their candidate!

Again the whole democrats and republicans are the same shit…

Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden. Is he a nepobaby? Sure but that doesn’t make Joe responsible for him lying on a firm to get a gun. Personally I don’t think much of Hunter but he is not the candidate.
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 13, 2024 at 09:55 PM UTC #
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.

Those are not cages. Plastic pods is what they are called. For sure it’s not a Julian’s America country club.
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 14, 2024 at 12:49 AM UTC #
I alluded to older voters above

https://www.newsweek.com/older-voters-donald-trump-2024-election-polls-1911778

Don’t put stock in polls before Labor Day. It’s just too early. But it’s still worrying to read Sabato.

I realize am posting a link to polls while saying they don’t matter….there’s a lot at stake and it’s hard for even me to ignore the noise
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 14, 2024 at 03:00 AM UTC #
hutch wrote:. But it’s still worrying to read Sabato.

interesting is when I did a search the top hits for sabato's missive were Newsmax and Washinton Examiner

We really need Pennsylvania, that's everything in my eyes  (of course Michigan, and Wisconsin too)
I think all monies in the DNC need to be focused on those areas
Space Freely
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 14, 2024 at 04:46 PM UTC #
Right back atcha, buddy.

https://x.com/i/status/1801308745651339374
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 14, 2024 at 07:43 PM UTC #
No, school's out for summer

hutch wrote:
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.

Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 14, 2024 at 07:55 PM UTC #
nkotb wrote:
No, school's out for summer

hutch wrote:
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.



This is an outrage!!!


Kosmo, do something!!
kosmo
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 14, 2024 at 08:00 PM UTC #
hutch wrote:
nkotb wrote:
No, school's out for summer

hutch wrote:
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.



This is an outrage!!!


Kosmo, do something!!


Nope too busy going through Chappel Roan’s oeuvre
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 14, 2024 at 08:35 PM UTC #
Checks out
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 16, 2024 at 03:52 PM UTC #
kosmo wrote:
hutch wrote:
nkotb wrote:
No, school's out for summer

hutch wrote:
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.



This is an outrage!!!


Kosmo, do something!!


Nope too busy going through Chappel Roan’s oeuvre

had yet to get to reviewing the oeuvre of Chappel Roan…but this showed up in my feed today

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 16, 2024 at 10:21 PM UTC #
Unless she ate dog shit, on stage, then next. The song was Lana Del Rey 2.0.
kosmo
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024 June 24, 2024 at 03:36 PM UTC #
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Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.
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