The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

What a slap in the face of Joe Biden!!!! You only donated after hearing he dropped out!!!
hutch wrote:
You only donated after hearing he dropped out!!!
can confirm

actBlue has now raised over $71,000,000 since Biden’s announcement this morning.



interesting
This will be the first Presidential election since 1976 to not have a Biden, Bush, or Clinton on the ticket.
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could have gone in great headline thread

Manchin: ‘I am not running for office’
So the dem VP picks?
Shapiro, beshear, Gretch

Taylor Swift won't be 35 until December
Whitmer and Newsome (it was never seriously going to be him) have supposedly declined.

I’d add Mark Kelly and Roy Cooper and Tim Walz to that potential VP list although I have to imagine it’s Shapiro’s if he wants it.
Julian, wrote:
Whitmer and Newsome (it was never seriously going to be him) have supposedly declined.

I’d add Mark Kelly and Roy Cooper and Tim Walz to that potential VP list although I have to imagine it’s Shapiro’s if he wants it.

I think Kelly is a great pick, but feel like the issue is his seat was won by a slim margin and too much risk there

but ultimately, PA is soo important
But I have always found that VP picks really don't do as much when it comes down to brass tax

In other news
Voto Latino pledges $44M to support Harris


I have to imagine the amount of ketchup on the walls of mara lago is getting out of control
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Taylor Swift won't be 35 until December


Which is fine since the term wouldn't begin until January.
Do we think Shapiro plays well with the Michigan Muslims?

I had to look up who Tim Walz is, but no way he's only 60 years old.
Beshear seems like a perfect fit. 

He’s the GOP’s platonic ideal of a candidate but happens to be a Democrat.

Counterbalances Kamala in every way

And his image of upstanding Christian Kentuckyness (surely well crafted and honed over a lifetime) will resonate . . .and as a bonus expose JD Vance further as not what he is supposed to be.





Mobius wrote:
Beshear seems like a perfect fit. 

He’s the GOP’s platonic ideal of a candidate but happens to be a Democrat.

Counterbalances Kamala in every way

And his image of upstanding Christian Kentuckyness (surely well crafted and honed over a lifetime) will resonate . . .and as a bonus expose JD Vance further as not what he is supposed to be.
If I could pick anyone it would be Pete Buttigieg

Now if I look at political reality I would go with Shapiro.

I don’t get what selecting Beshear does. I worry it would just be Kaine v 2.0. So he was elected in a red state…so what? In 100 days he is going to convince people outside of KY to vote D? People in PA apparently really like Shapiro and in a close election that could be the difference and Beshear will appeal to people in PA and get them to vote Kamala how??
@NewsWire_US
Democrats have raised over $250 million in the last 24 hours through ActBlue and major donor PACs.


also…well played…
@tedlieu
Democrats continue to be in array.
Awesome news…….for political consultants.
come on man, you don't think this money helps?


this was a funny response
Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, asked if he’d accept offer to serve as vp for Harris, quips:

“Look, if they if they do the polling and it turns out that they need a 49-year-old, bald and gay Jew from Boulder, Colorado, they got my number.”
If you offered me a choice between money and nice weather in PA, MI and WI on Election Day I would take nice weather.

Money doesn’t hurt. The main benefit of raising money is people seem to feel it means your candidate is doing well. I just think with such a polarized electorate it doesn’t matter how many TV ads you run in the states that matter. Does it help get your base out by funding get out the vote efforts and canvassing? Maybe….

Far more important would be having more voting machines in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee. Unfortunately I am told this can’t be done and people must continue to wait hours to vote.

What exactly do you think money accomplishes? We are going to run ads painting Trump as dangerous? Haven’t we done this ad nauseum? People don’t know? More ads about abortion?
Of course politicians will tell you $ makes all the difference. How else can they justify asking you for money?
hutch wrote:
If you offered me a choice between money and nice weather in PA, MI and WI on Election Day I would take nice weather.

Far more important would be having more voting machines in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee. Unfortunately I am told this can’t be done and people must continue to wait hours to vote.

agree on both these points

I do think driving your base to early vote/Mail in can help with the weather issue

Michigan: Early voting starts Oct. 26
Wisconsin: Early voting starts Oct. 22
PA - No early voting


All three of these states have no-excuse mail in voting too

hutch wrote:
If I could pick anyone it would be Pete Buttigieg

Now if I look at political reality I would go with Shapiro.

I don’t get what selecting Beshear does. I worry it would just be Kaine v 2.0. So he was elected in a red state…so what? In 100 days he is going to convince people outside of KY to vote D? People in PA apparently really like Shapiro and in a close election that could be the difference and Beshear will appeal to people in PA and get them to vote Kamala how??


If you are a Christian conservative type (or other) in PA, or MI or OH or WI or anywhere and you pride yourself on high moral values, faith, family, community . . . Beshear should resonate with you.  So he cuts right to the heart of all people in swing states and elsewhere who instinctively identify as GOP (conservative) and force them to choose between someone in the other party who lives the life and walks the walk and those in their own party who do not and simply pander to them.  That’s powerful.