Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 21, 2024 at 06:55 PM UTC
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@mattyglesais
What if the October Surprise is sober, factual coverage of the Trump policy agenda?
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 12:26 PM UTC
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Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 03:06 PM UTC
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^ouch
Why voters aren’t responding to messages like these is anyone’s guess, though the fable of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind. Trump was already president. And while Democrats warned about the danger he posed to democracy, we did actually have an election to get rid of him. Remember, the moral of the fable isn’t that, in the end, there wasn’t a wolf. It’s that no one believed the boy.
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 03:19 PM UTC
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I'm sure it's not helping to talk breathlessly about what a threat Republicans are to democracy and then to welcome a guy that actually did steal an election into your camp with open arms.
At the end of the day, I don't think this should be a surprise:
day wrote:
^ouch
Why voters aren’t responding to messages like these is anyone’s guess.
January 6 doesn't impact most people's daily life or their material conditions. A vague thread of "end of democracy" is an intangible when you're struggling to put food on the table or have insurmountable medical debt.
Isaac
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 04:39 PM UTC
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America's in its vote for the axe era.
Got people who may or may not have family, friends, loved ones who came here under murky legal circumstances.
Some maybe still with statuses up in the air. Those people "just can't see" voting for Harris. "I mean, have you seen the cost of x" or "look at all the crime on this crime tracker app". "I like money". The fuck.
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 05:06 PM UTC
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beetsnotbeats
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 06:16 PM UTC
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Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 07:05 PM UTC
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The nazi comparisons are execrable.
Calling him a wanna be dictator seems more appropriate. If you want to call him a fascist ok but nazi? They gassed millions upon millions of people. Let’s not minimize that by comparing them to Trump!
I mean maybe these ridiculous comparisons are why so many Americans might believe Hitler wasn’t all that bad…
beetsnotbeats
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 07:38 PM UTC
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If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 07:47 PM UTC
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Justin wrote:
If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.
Among the worst people?
Sorry to break it to you but there is a lot of competition for worst people of the 20th century!
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 08:44 PM UTC
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Yeah, id argue that if someone is espousing Nazi ideology, regardless of whether they've carried it out, or whether they have the means to carry it out, they're a nazi. Which is basically the Republican Party platform for my entire life.
Justin wrote:
If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 10:15 PM UTC
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Wow…ok…I wasn’t a Reagan or Bush Sr. fan to say the least but to call them Nazis is out there…
It reminds me of the media commentators on a debate saying they both lied when one told 1 lie and the other 100. It’s a very counterproductive way of looking at things. Very childish very black and white.
But you do you
jrpa
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 23, 2024 at 11:21 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Wow…ok…I wasn’t a Reagan or Bush Sr. fan to say the least but to call them Nazis is out there…
It reminds me of the media commentators on a debate saying they both lied when one told 1 lie and the other 100. It’s a very counterproductive way of looking at things. Very childish very black and white.
But you do you
I agree with this 100%. Being unable to understand nuance or degree is not a virtue. The Bernie Scum wing of the party make this mistake every five minutes. Infuriating.
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 24, 2024 at 12:13 AM UTC
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Sorry guys. Next time I'll get try to the nuance of the AIDS epidemic or the War in Iraq.
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 24, 2024 at 03:02 AM UTC
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nkotb wrote:
Sorry guys. Next time I'll get try to the nuance of the AIDS epidemic or the War in Iraq.
Funnily enough the guy who started the war in Iraq did the most when it came to fighting the AIDS epidemic in Africa.
And neither “nuance” makes them Nazis anyway.
Resorting to using the word Nazi for “bad guy” or “President I didn’t like” seems pretty lazy. Childish as mentioned before.
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 24, 2024 at 01:57 PM UTC
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No, you're the childish one
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 24, 2024 at 02:02 PM UTC
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🙄
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 24, 2024 at 02:46 PM UTC
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Beyoncé will appear at VP Kamala Harris’ rally in Houston tomorrow night!
Space Freely
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 24, 2024 at 03:07 PM UTC
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day wrote:
Beyoncé will appear at VP Kamala Harris’ rally in Houston tomorrow night!
Do you think that will sway enough undecided voters in Texas to swing Texas her way? Or in PA?
Isaac
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
October 24, 2024 at 05:31 PM UTC
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Well blow us all then, they are just playing 2016 part 2.
Jay Z, Beyonce headline concert for Clinton - Updated 5:26 PM EDT, Sat November 5, 2016
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/hillary-clinton-jay-z-beyonce-big-sean-chance-the-rapper/index.html