The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

Hutch wrote:
I do not agree with you!
yeah, he definitely should have gone to the A giant dog show
That's the number from their current campaign only, and obviously doesn't include the death toll from other violent means like the horrid conditions they're forced to live under.

Let's take the definition from the Geneva Convention, something (I would assume) we all think is good and something we should follow:

"Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group; [CHECK]
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; [CHECK]
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [CHECK]
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [depending on your definition, CHECK]

Just because they might not be as successful as they want doesn't change what they're doing, and what we're paying for.

Looks like a duck, etc. etc.


eat wrote:
While 3k is still a lot of people (and horrible), in a population of 2 million…hardly genocide
nkotb wrote:

Let's take the definition from the Geneva Convention, something (I would assume) we all think is good and something we should follow:

"Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [CHECK]
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [depending on your definition, CHECK]

can't say I agree on these last three (first two for sure)
the birth ones seems way off as their population is growing at a fast pace
not sure about forcibly transferring children either.  (but there is a lot I don't know)
hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.

Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Yada wrote:
since I was suckin' my moms teet.

weird flex as that wasn't that long ago
We are paying for?

Israel is a highly developed wealthy country. You seem to think it’s 1955!

We give money and weapons to our friends and even sometimes our frenemies. Egypt, Jordan get our money etc.

Israel is not dependent on our aid.

Heck they have like 15 Nobel Prize winners!

Have you ever visited the Middle East? Israel is like a beacon on the hill compared to the repressive totalitarian states around them! I mean Arabs in Israel vote. Heck the Palestinians don’t even have a functioning democracy. I mean either Hamas are being elected by the people of Gaza or they are dictators.  Take your picky. I place most of the blame for the situation the Palestinians are in on the Palestinians and their supposed Arab friends who do nothing for them.

But yeah…blame Israel and the Jews…it’s always the Jews to blame….they just had 1300 people plus blown to bits by terrorists who have more than 200 hostages including Americans and let’s blame Israel for genocide.

Give me a break.

Yada wrote:
hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.

Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.


Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop

And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.

Propagandist.
Hutch wrote:
Yada wrote:
hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.

Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.


Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop

And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.

Propagandist.


No… you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.

What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby… so pretty sure i'm quoting you.

lol come on man

Hutch wrote:
We are paying for?


Hutch wrote:
We give money and weapons to our friends and even sometimes our frenemies. Egypt, Jordan get our money etc.
Just checking in for my daily update on how our own personal Lincoln/Douglas debate is proceeding. All good, I see.
I do not agree!
Listening to you guys makes me realize why my wife implores me to stop talking about politics.
WOW

Hutch wrote:
it’s always the Jews to blame

Yada wrote:
Hutch wrote:
Yada wrote:
hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.

Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.


Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop

And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.

Propagandist.


No… you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.

What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby… so pretty sure i'm quoting you.


Oh now I am cold hearted.

For what? Saying I leave it up to Israel to determine what they need to do for their security in the wake of an unprecedented terrorist attack? That is the extent of my statement and I stand by it but you seem to draw an inference that I condone mass murder.

I never said Israel should do what you seem to accuse them of doing.

Gotta say Yada I am surprised at what you are accusing me of. I can take it but you should be careful about making such assumptions. It’s one thing to have different positions or opinions but when you start saying those with opinions different to yours are condoning mass murder….at that point I would say the conversation is over. Good day.

Do I need to post pictures of kittens again??

Couldn’t hurt….
Hutch wrote:
Yada wrote:
Hutch wrote:
Yada wrote:
hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.

Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.


Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop

And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.

Propagandist.


No… you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.

What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby… so pretty sure i'm quoting you.


Oh now I am cold hearted.

For what? Saying I leave it up to Israel to determine what they need to do for their security in the wake of an unprecedented terrorist attack? That is the extent of my statement and I stand by it but you seem to draw an inference that I condone mass murder.

I never said Israel should do what you seem to accuse them of doing.

Gotta say Yada I am surprised at what you are accusing me of. I can take it but you should be careful about making such assumptions. It’s one thing to have different positions or opinions but when you start saying those with opinions different to yours are condoning mass murder….at that point I would say the conversation is over. Good day.


Give me a break… did I hurt your feelings hutch?

You're the one that insisted on this conversation happening on the forum.

Edit: and yes, you are condoning mass murder if you feel that Israel is handling this the way it should be.
I do agree!
Kittens!

Enjoy your weekend, have a beer, listen to some records, go for a walk









A lot of Arab Americans in Michigan….

Biden isn’t exactly threading the needle right now

Would hate to see a repeat of 2000 Florida where we lost election due to Elian G.