The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

Uh…

https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states

GetThee2aHatcheryıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:
not even RCP lists VA as a battle ground state
daaaang…I still don't believe VA is in play

RCP is very biased right…eventhough they are using poling data, they don't weigh it
so crappy pols end up throwing things off

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/virginia/
still has biden at almost 2% ahead


still early and getting shot in the ear tends to help polling numbers
still over 100 days left
Everything is in play when virtually the entire Democratic Party is calling for him to drop out.
If Biden is going to drop out he might as well resign at same time. President Kamala could then run.


Everything is so fucked. We are so fucked.


For the first time I think there is a decent chance that Biden steps down.  Maybe like 35% chance.  If he goes it'll be because he is threatening down ballot races and folks think Kamala helps there.  Progressives don't influence him, and they know it. 

Julian, wrote:
*whispers* Maybe Bernie has been an idiot whose wrong about every Dem vs Dem issue for decades . . . /whispering


I think Nina Turner said it all pretty clearly in CNN last week:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/aoc-sanders-biden-progressives/index.html

“I think we’re getting too caught up in a mess that we didn’t make,” Turner said of the infighting over Biden’s fate. “The more moderate neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party will never let progressives have a progressive candidate, so why are we sweating this?”

The suggestion that progressives could vault one of their own to the nomination during an open convention, Turner added, was little more than fan fiction.

“We don’t have a horse in this race,” she said. “So we need to settle down and we need to focus on pushing and keep doing what we’re doing, which is to try to push this party further to the left. Whoever it is, we are going to push them and make demands.”
Can't say I disagree!

gavroche wrote:

Julian, wrote:
*whispers* Maybe Bernie has been an idiot whose wrong about every Dem vs Dem issue for decades . . . /whispering


I think Nina Turner said it all pretty clearly in CNN last week:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/aoc-sanders-biden-progressives/index.html

“I think we’re getting too caught up in a mess that we didn’t make,” Turner said of the infighting over Biden’s fate. “The more moderate neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party will never let progressives have a progressive candidate, so why are we sweating this?”

The suggestion that progressives could vault one of their own to the nomination during an open convention, Turner added, was little more than fan fiction.

“We don’t have a horse in this race,” she said. “So we need to settle down and we need to focus on pushing and keep doing what we’re doing, which is to try to push this party further to the left. Whoever it is, we are going to push them and make demands.”
It’s over for Biden.

Biden will insist on Kamala being his replacement as candidate. Given they are all Biden delegates at the upcoming DNC convention I have to think she will be the one.

Never seen anything like this…
Welp that’s going to be hard to know how this plays out

Sitting here after being aurally assaulted by kid rock and ear bandage just took the stage
Goodness the campaign has made this attempt its #1 message
Huh. I never even considered watching.
Fascinating

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/21/biden-obama-2024-president-drop-out

At the time I felt like Biden didn’t run because he was grieving Beau’s death and focused on his family.

At the time I also felt like Obama did want Hillary to run as part of an “understanding “ reached when Hillary endorsed him in 2008.

Notable that the Clintons are pretty much the only ones not publicly calling for Biden to drop out.

I had expected Biden to announce tonight that he would be dropping out but doesn’t seem to be happening.
Biden drops out
Huh.
Dear Kosmo: can you scrub my accounts? About to be the Democrats nominee for VP. Thanks.
Was really hoping there wouldn’t be any post show buzzkills this morning, but seeing a poll out of Michigan where Biden was losing even the Detroit Metro area seemed like harbinger of things to come.  The interview with congressman yesterday on This American Life wasn’t helping either…
How could he poll well anywhere when the entire Democratic Party was saying he can’t run? Once Obama let his position be know it was all over.

If the entire party had stuck with Biden who knows what would have happened? I realize conventional stupidity is he would have lost but after the debate there was plenty of polling showing little impact on the race. Political junkies watch debates not the vast majority of Americans. But when we got a drip drip drip from democrats each day saying he should drop out of course his numbers among democratic voters began to suffer.
Julian, wrote:
Dear Kosmo: can you scrub my accounts? About to be the Democrats nominee for VP. Thanks.


Didn’t realize you were the governor of Pennsylvania!!
Andy Beshear would really tie the room together
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-campaign-fundraising

"ActBlue announced grassroots supporters had raised as of 9pm ET $46.7 million via the Democratic donation-processing site following her campaign launch, which it noted on X was 'the biggest fundraising day of the 2024 cycle.""
I put a few sheckles in the hat on this news
My first 2024 donation