The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

Salad-Hatch. wrote:
I have knowledge of this, (decent 9:30 forum tagline)
does one day Biden, declare ‘I shall seek a second term “
And then it’s final, that’s who is running

bumping this up to see if there is a known answer

Ted is raging.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1592192962267877377

He goes on about Americans getting screwed. Does he consider the Americans who voted against the Republicans to not be Americans?

Space wrote:
He goes on about Americans getting screwed. Does he consider the Americans who voted against the Republicans to not be Americans?

to answer your question: he does.

sweetcell wrote:

Julian, wrote:
Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.

while that's not exactly how i would put it, yeah - newsom's candidacy is a non-starter.  he has too much "california baggage" to be elected.  i was just having this discussion 2 nights ago… not sure how anyone can think he'd work nationally.

apparently this dude isn't feeling us:

Here’s a game plan: Biden replaces Harris with Newsom and then resigns

(…) That reality speaks to the need for a proven vote-getter with lots of money and a logistical machine behind him. In Politics 101, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) meets — maybe even exceeds — those qualifications. 


dude.  i definitely want some of whatever he's smoking.

Madness


Unless Biden keels over he will be the nominee (for better or for worse). That’s one of the things this election decided. And if he replaced Kamala with Gavin Newsom the African American community would lose its marbles.

Starsky wrote:
Madness


Unless Biden keels over he will be the nominee (for better or for worse). That’s one of the things this election decided. And if he replaced Kamala with Gavin Newsom the African American community would lose its marbles.

4,000

this thread is well named

Kanye West announces he will again run for US President in 2024

Iowa, Ohio, and Florida appear no longer to be closely divided states.
Therefore are no longer considered battleground states

Presidential campaigns start mapping

Also do we really believe that Ye asked Trump to be his VP
That’s crazy even for him

That’s right…just look at the last presidential election and you can see how the next one will likely go as far as where parties will put emphasis

Democrats should look more to GA and NC than FL and OH.

Wisconsin is key ….We could have beat Ron Johnson there!

Then you got the Southwest where Democrats need Nevada and Arizona

So yeah the map has changed.

I really hope Democrats finally learn the lesson that FL and OH are a waste of time and money other than impact they can have on other states like Pennsylvania and Georgia (so yeah invest in Jacksonville TV market and part of Ohio that borders PA)

If Trump is the Republican I think we can hold it together. Not sure how Desantis will play…. Everyone talks about what a great candidate he is but I don’t see it…

I think this is a great idea.
Always though Iowa was a joke place to start

Democrats voted to remove Iowa as the leadoff state on the presidential nominating calendar and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024

Smells wrote:
Always though Iowa was a joke place to start

an effective way of ensuring white political privilege.

Smells wrote:
I think this is a great idea.
Always though Iowa was a joke place to start

Democrats voted to remove Iowa as the leadoff state on the presidential nominating calendar and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024

Iowa was traditionally a swing state so it made sense. It is not now. Fortunately they’ve fixed that by moving to a state that’s always up for grabs: South Carolina.

Does that mean that Iowa where the GOP will start?
Not remembering how this works

I mean last time was such a joke with the GOP with a bunch of states just canceling the primaries where other states were holding them

An interesting take

The DNC has voted to approve a White House plan of moving South Carolina to the front of the line of the 2024 calendar, followed by Nevada and New Hampshire and onto Georgia and Michigan before Super Tuesday. Call it the President Biden re-election protection act.

Smells wrote:
An interesting take

The DNC has voted to approve a White House plan of moving South Carolina to the front of the line of the 2024 calendar, followed by Nevada and New Hampshire and onto Georgia and Michigan before Super Tuesday. Call it the President Biden re-election protection act.

Its Biden’s nomination if he wants it regardless of state order.

This is really pretty good aside from SC (which is meant as a gesture to black voters but is electorally brain dead). The other states are fantastic.

The really under-discussed repercussion of this is how many political ads am I going to have to see during Michigan games next fall and winter 2024 as a result of this?

From Ole billy k

Unsettling news:

Election-denier Lake got 49.7% in AZ.

Super-flawed candidate Walker got ~48.5% in GA.

Johnson won WI with 50.5%.

So those states are very much in play for 2024. If my EC math is right, if Rs add those three to states they won in 2020, they win the presidency.

bring on the GOP shitshow 2024. 
My prediction is trump will continue to run and grift.  Then continue to throw hand grenades in every direction.  At both the dems and GOP. then will lose the first few states and realize there is no chance and drop out late in the game.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/12/13/trump-support-gop-2024-presidential-race-poll/10882346002/
this has got to be the smallest his base has ever been
31% want the former president to run

Sidefusion wrote:
My prediction is trump will continue to run and grift.  Then continue to throw hand grenades in every direction.  At both the dems and GOP. then will lose the first few states and realize there is no chance and drop out late in the game.

alternate ending: he loses the republican nom, so starts his own party and runs as a third-party candidate.  the GOP begs him not to, rightly predicting that he'll split the conservative vote thus ensuring that the Dems keep the WH.  trump won't care, because continued campaigning = continued grifting and he'll be aware this will be his last big chance to fleece the flock.  dems could run biden's corps and they'd still win (probably will ;D ).  trump is happy to murder the GOP in 2024 in return for cold hard cash.

epilogue: trump disappears, but his party remains.  more competent right-wing nationalists who can form complete sentences rise in the ranks and vie for the conservative vote against a fading GOP.  trump dies, but trumpism lives on.

sweetcell wrote:
alternate ending: he loses the republican nom, so starts his own party and runs as a third-party candidate.  the GOP begs him not to, rightly predicting that he'll split the conservative vote thus ensuring that the Dems keep the WH.

this is my dream.  I've predicted this more than once, and so far have only felt foolish making that prediction

  trump won't care

almost implying that he once did care

trump dies, but trumpism lives on.

ultimately the biggest threat we face.  But it's very cult of personality, as we've seen Desantis or Don Jr clearly doesn't satisfy the hard core MAGA
I think in the end that 10-15 million MAGA voters will go back to under their rocks and won't vote in future presidential elections and that too may be the kill shot of what the GOP is today

only wild card on all of this is if the GOP really starts to lean into the Hispanic vote.  It's not like they haven't done 180s multiple times on this topic in decades, biggest issue would be getting the GOP to shed its xenophobic and white supremist tendencies.  They could easily gain 10 +mil voters here if done right

as a case could be made there are more 'getable' Hispanics than crazy white MAGAs