kosmo
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 08, 2023 at 05:15 PM UTC
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Apparently the Transportation bill that look at me MTG got that amendment on, is dead in the water because there aren’t enough vote for it…
But, she’ll go on ever right outlet can spewing this “ achievement”
It’s a darn good thing that they elected such a strong leader… the shutdown will be long and nasty
And I like today’s revelation that reason Johnson isn’t reporting an savings account is because his money isn’t in interest earning ones.. because that isn’t shady at all
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 08, 2023 at 06:24 PM UTC
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gavroche wrote:
If the Democrats really wanted that though, it would be smarter to direct spending to winnable states. Instead Democrats keep passing bills (like the IRA and IIJA) where the benefits go predominantely to red states and where they won't get credit no matter what they do. Trump did just the opposite; the bills that has pased going overwhelmingly to his base and targeted his oponents (SALT for example).
this is 100% accurate.
Apparently, the IRA is going to benefit states like FL and TX so much, that these states almost don't have to collect taxes there will be so much in the coffer
and not one Red voter in those states will 'reward' the dems for this largesse
but I'm not sure I agree this is what the Dems should do, but it wouldn't hurt to do some 'good things' for the 8 battleground states in the next year
kosmo wrote:
Apparently the Transportation bill that look at me MTG got that amendment on, is dead in the water because there aren’t enough vote for it…
it's all for show and saying they 'did something' when the reality is they did nothing
if it's not going to even pass the house, it's like shouting into the void (or your preferred echo chamber)
Space Freely
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 08, 2023 at 06:50 PM UTC
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Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 08, 2023 at 06:54 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Space wrote:
Beshear 2024!
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1722068864693891159?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1722068864693891159%7Ctwgr%5E874e6b8e141341734185ebe2e3fb0bb2e03d6bb2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcurbanmom.com%2Fjforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F255%2F1166628.page
yeah, saw something similar last night
Angry Staffer 🌻@Angry_Staffer
Wanna ruin a Republican’s night?
Let ‘em know that the KY Governors Race has predicted the Presidential election in the previous 5 cycles.
jrpa
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 08, 2023 at 07:19 PM UTC
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nkotb wrote:
He could've overruled the parliamentarian and given people the $15 minimum wage Dems have been promising. He could've used the Higher Ed Act to actually make good on his campaign promise to forgive during his campaign. He could've declared the climate collapse as a national emergency.
Son, the adults are talking, why don't you run along?
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 08, 2023 at 07:36 PM UTC
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Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 04:09 PM UTC
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7.5 million Americans watched latest Republican debate or about 2% of Americans
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12732397/Viewing-figures-Republican-debate-drop-NBC.htmlI still have a hard time believing Trump will be the Republican candidate.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 04:48 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
I still have a hard time believing Trump will be the Republican candidate.
you have a hard time, but you know it will happen?
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 04:57 PM UTC
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Bazinga
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 05:17 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
Bazinga
thought for sure this was the first time this was used…but appeared many times already
also in related news
Dems are now rushing to get similar abortion measures on the ballot next year in Arizona, Nevada and Florida
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 05:36 PM UTC
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Jill's back!
Jill Stein announced that she is running for president in 2024 as a Green Party candidate.
finally, a candidate that NKOTB can support
well there is Claudia de la Cruz but has attained ballot lines in any states.
so that works out perfectly
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 05:40 PM UTC
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I don’t know that Jill passes NKOTB’s purity test….might as well elect Trump…
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 05:59 PM UTC
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I actually have never voted for Jill Stein, which may surprise Hutch. She kind of lost my interest when she started talking some 9/11 truther-adjacent stuff a few years back. I hadn't seen that she was running again, but I guess that's because Cornel West went from the People's Party (lol) to the Green and then as an independent.
Claudia de la Cruz seems pretty great IMO, but yeah, I don't think PSL gets on the ballot here. I feel like they were on the DC ballot in 2020, but I might be mistaken.
All in all, pretty grim!
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 08:15 PM UTC
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as if the onion was trying to goad NKOTB
The Onion@TheOnion
Critics Warn Jill Stein Candidacy Could Harm Cornel West’s Chances Of Being Elected
nkotb
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 08:34 PM UTC
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lol we don't need her spoiling the spoiler!!!!
Sidehatch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 10, 2023 at 09:58 PM UTC
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nkotb wrote:
spoiling the spoiler!!!!
the title of my next ep
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 11, 2023 at 12:38 AM UTC
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Space Freely
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 11, 2023 at 12:57 AM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/will-joe-manchin-run-for-president-democrats-fear-a-disaster-c19952ec
What if everyone abandoned Biden and voted Manchin and he won? Would that beso horrible?
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 11, 2023 at 01:08 AM UTC
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Well, that hypothetical is impossible so why waste time contemplating it?
One might as well ask what if pigs could fly would that be so bad?
I mean progressives would never vote for him and neither would black people. And there is no way he would peel off enough Republican votes.
The American middle is smaller than ever so this type of run is not plausible. Honestly a Biden primary challenge from the left flank is the most plausible scenario. But it would have to have been AOC and thankfully she is still too young! Hard to believe. Someone like a Bernie but much younger and a female minority could have been a threat….now it’s too late.
Also, is a 76 year old white man the right person to challenge Biden and / or Trump?
Hutch
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
November 11, 2023 at 01:29 AM UTC
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And yes I am home tonight cause I have a memorial service tomorrow morning…