The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

So lots of dumping on trump from the pundits

but I have seen some crazy vitriol from the MAGA crowd on DeSantis
Any hint that he might be presidential material is responded with …you mean 2028 because there is zero chance that I'll vote for anyone but trump

I really hope this cleaves the party
that Trump actually creates a "Trump Party" and says FU to all the GOP elite

I can't believe how long the Party elite has allowed Trump to rule the party
mostly because they know he has the votes

I just don't think this can end well

So I expect we'll get an announcement from Trump soon, mostly because he'll use it as an argument (that most will believe) that inditing him is politically motivated and for that reason should be thrown out…alas new ways to run the clock

Decent short list

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731647-ranking-the-democrats-who-could-run-for-president-in-2024/

Gretchen is getting quite the notice

I Personally I think booker should be on this list
And I wish isnlee could get people more excited

How do we feel about Mark Kelly?

Space wrote:
How do we feel about Mark Kelly?

he is kinda’space-y’

You just had to do it didn’t you!! :)

Let me enjoy this one for a while…

Salad-Hatch. wrote:
Decent short list

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731647-ranking-the-democrats-who-could-run-for-president-in-2024/

Gretchen is getting quite the notice

I Personally I think booker should be on this list
And I wish isnlee could get people more excited

Corey Booker!? Surely you jest. Man has the personality of a dry mop. No one wanted him in 2020, what’s changed?

Any list that exists in the fantasy world where Biden does not get it needs to start with Colorado’s Governor Polis and Senator Bennett. There’s two variations on the Democratic theme to choose from and both can win in purple states.

Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.

Julian, wrote:

Corey Booker!? Surely you jest. Man has the personality of a dry mop. No one wanted him in 2020, what’s changed.

Exactly nothing

He was really the first democrat senator talking about pot In the hallowed halls of the senate

I like his stance on prison reform and food/agriculture

Electable, I think so.  It sure the democrat base thinks so.
I think he is very likable and that means a lot

I have very little faith Harris will win over the base at all, maybe with 51 senators we’ll hear and see a whole lot more of her

No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.

If Biden doesn’t run - and the midterms make it a certainty barring ill health that he will - then I can see Pete and Kamala slugging it out with a “Bernie Sanders Nation” candidate.

Julian, wrote:
No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.

So in Booker vs. DeSantis, you're calling Desantis?

I see Pete in the last 3 for sure

I have knowledge of this, (decent 9:30 forum tagline)
does one day Biden, declare ‘I shall seek a second term “
And then it’s final, that’s who is running

deadheads wrote:

Julian, wrote:
No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.

So in Booker vs. DeSantis, you're calling Desantis?

Its hard to say not knowing how the economy is, etc etc, when this hypothetical election was going to take place, but DeSantis is a better swing state candidate right now in 2022 than Booker by a wide margin. “Candidate quality matters” — wasn't that the lesson we were supposed to have learned last week?

Am I crazy,  does Jamie raskin have some national potential?

Salad-Hatch. wrote:
Am I crazy,  does Jamie raskin have some national potential?

He's very much like Bernie Sanders politically, and a Democratic Party member, but he doesn't exude the heat of Bernie that makes him compelling to people who would not normally support progressives. Light a fire under him and maybe.

When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?

Julian, wrote:
When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?

oh i know i know!!!  it's one happened once: john quincy adams!

(not only am i the life of the party, i KILL it at trivia - follow me to learn more!)

Julian, wrote:
Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.

while that's not exactly how i would put it, yeah - newsom's candidacy is a non-starter.  he has too much "california baggage" to be elected.  i was just having this discussion 2 nights ago… not sure how anyone can think he'd work nationally. 

Salad-Hatch. wrote:
Am I crazy,  does Jamie raskin have some national potential?

not sure this country is ready for a jewish president.

Julian, wrote:
When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?

welp pretty much never, but I guess he needs to become a governor or senator first

Salad-Hatch. wrote:

Julian, wrote:
When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?

welp pretty much never, but I guess he's needed to become a governor or senator first

Josh Shapiro seems like a better Jewish pick.

I mean, we can do senators, governors, SCOTUS, often half the cabinet, but POTUS is off the table
I agree Josh S now has a better chance after being elected Gov

Spitzer might have had a chance if he didn't go down in a ball of flames