The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

Huge Mike Scott fan here. He has relevant experience as a Regional Manager of a mid-level paper supply company and is a winner of multiple Dundees.

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Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.

Cock wrote:
Huge Mike Scott fan here. He has relevant experience as a Regional Manager of a mid-level paper supply company and is a winner of multiple Dundees.

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Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.

And who doesn't love the Waterboys?

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Cock wrote:
Huge Mike Scott fan here. He has relevant experience as a Regional Manager of a mid-level paper supply company and is a winner of multiple Dundees.

kosmo wrote:
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Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.

And who doesn't love the Waterboys?

Would Mike Scott like Mike Scott?

This doesn’t look good

https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-presidential-election-isnt-a

You gotta admit this is pretty funny:

"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president…Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/

Insert Mencken quote

Whoa, bad form, hutch

“On one issue, at least, men and women agree: they both distrust women.”

hutch wrote:
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The other one…

hutch wrote:
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Here are some notable quotes by H.L. Mencken:
"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin."
"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."
"Life is a constant oscillation between the sharp horns of dilemmas."
"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself."
"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married."
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
"I know some who are constantly drunk on books as other men are drunk on whiskey."
"The older I grow, the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom."
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people."

For being a dude who ran a Jewish department store in NYC, this guy sure seems to pop off on a variety of topics.

Nyt stirs the pot
https://x.com/marikakatanuma/status/1808515061750939989

https://x.com/andrewjbates46/status/1808515890004050293

nkotb wrote:
You gotta admit this is pretty funny:

"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president…Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/

That's what happens when one candidate can speak and the other can't.  Up becomes down and vice versa.

They are convinced that the charges against Trump are political retribution and a threat to Democracy.

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nkotb wrote:
You gotta admit this is pretty funny:

"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president…Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/

That's what happens when one candidate can speak and the other can't.  Up becomes down and vice versa.

They are convinced that the charges against Trump are political retribution and a threat to Democracy.

Just provably false as the same thing happened with Hillary.

And to say Trump can speak? You serious? He sounds like a blubbering idiot.


The issue with Biden is not whether he can speak - why do so many miss this- but whether he is showing signs of dementia.

Welp in the UK they elected Keir Starmer
So that’s a step in the right direction

hutch wrote:

gavroche wrote:

nkotb wrote:
You gotta admit this is pretty funny:

"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president…Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/

That's what happens when one candidate can speak and the other can't.  Up becomes down and vice versa.

They are convinced that the charges against Trump are political retribution and a threat to Democracy.

Just provably false as the same thing happened with Hillary.

And to say Trump can speak? You serious? He sounds like a blubbering idiot.


The issue with Biden is not whether he can speak - why do so many miss this- but whether he is showing signs of dementia.

I think Biden is going to lose, and that he's going to lose pretty significantly (6 or 7 percent nationally). Trump is now above 50%, signaling that a bunch of voters have made peace with voting for him.  I think that'll be hard to undo without some sort of economic miracle.  I'll work as hard as I can for Biden though, because I hate the alternative.

Unfortunately, I also think Biden is the Dems best chance at this point unless they were going to bring in a Kasich type.  I don't see Kamala or anyone else attracting the moderate R's that have made their peace with Trump. I think a more progressive candidate could have won if they had a year to get out their message, but not now. I also don't think Biden will quite, so the conversations about him doing so to save the country are actually self-defeating because they help Trump.

As for Biden, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't actually have dementia. I think his inability to sell his agenda publicly has been undermining him his whole Presidency, even before that debate debacle. Otherwise, how do you explain that you think his Presidency has been objectively great but no one thinks so? Obama and Biden could have exactly the same policies but Obama's ability to sell them helped with the perception that things were going well.  Biden was losing before the debate and it's why that debate was so damaging.  Regan had dementia and was able to hide it because he was a naturally talented communicator.  We've had incapacitated President's in the past and the institution was able to function.  It's no ideal at all, but it's better than a fascist, so we look to Biden irregardless of his potential dementia.

Hillary is a slightly different phenomenom (and that it was an earlier and less perfected stage of disinformation).  People distrusted Hillary from year's of scandals involving Bill. The noise fit into a narrative that everyone already sort of felt. If anything things have gotten more separated now, and so it's easier to have disinformation.

As for Trump… I can't explain it, but there is no doubt that people have always found him compelling. He has a natural ability to draw attention. 

Anybody seen the Lord Almighty this morning?

Space wrote:
Anybody seen the Lord Almighty this morning?

If you're reading this, you're one of the Left Behind.

Well look on the bright side…always look on the bright side


This is the last time anybody over 77 gets nominated for president.

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Space wrote:
Anybody seen the Lord Almighty this morning?

If you're reading this, you're one of the Left Behind.

is this why Kirk Cameron was leaving CA?