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Julian, wrote:
Space wrote:
I guess I don't know as many chuckleheads as you.
I know a great many chuckleheads.
how many of them are on this board ;)
Julian, wrote:
9 out 10 people who see a segment from John Oliver do not have HBO, bro. This shit lives on Twitter and Facebook.

dunno about FB and TW, but he gets a ton of eyeballs on youtube (including mine).  his weekly vids typically get between 3 and 7 million views, eclipsing his HBO viewership.  a quick scroll of his video listing page reveals that he has several stories that got over 30 million views.  his most popular piece, posted as trump was about to secure the GOP nom in early 2016, has over 40 million views.
Sidespeare wrote:
Space wrote:
"Tons?"

Let's not get carried away. 1 million viewers in a country of 330 million people.

99.7% of Americans don't watch his show.

Why would HBO pay him over $15 million a year then?  you are just looking silly on this topic

For his highly successful TV show on HBO, John Oliver earns an annual salary of $15 Million dollars. In addition to this fixed salary, John Oliver is also eligible for an additional $2 Million in bonus, if his TV Show achieves certain Cable TV ratings



pulled from your article
Last Week Tonight has averaged 4.7 million across all platforms and plays for episodes of the new season.
so your 99.7% number is incorrect too

Obviously the network is willing to pay for Julian or Sidehatch's eyeballs much more than you or hutch's
But I already knew that


I stand corrected. 98.6% of Americans don't watch John Oliver.



By comparison, 50 million viewers (21.4% of the 1983 US populations) watched the MASH finale.

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-watched-episodes-2016-9#1-mash--goodbye-farewell-and-amen-series-finale-20

I bet Alan Alda, who made 300K per episode, feels robbed.
sweetcell wrote:
Julian, wrote:
9 out 10 people who see a segment from John Oliver do not have HBO, bro. This shit lives on Twitter and Facebook.

dunno about FB and TW, but he gets a ton of eyeballs on youtube (including mine).  his weekly vids typically get between 3 and 7 million views, eclipsing his HBO viewership.  a quick scroll of his video listing page reveals that he has several stories that got over 30 million views.  his most popular piece, posted as trump was about to secure the GOP nom in early 2016, has over 40 million views.


That's about .4% of the total number of views that Baby Shark has gotten (10.7 billion.)
If you’re trying to point out that John Oliver segments lack the rewatchability of ear worms like Baby Shark, then yes, you’ve stumbled upon a point of agreement.

I don’t even like John Oliver, but this just constantly claiming that things are not part of the zeitgeist because they fail to accumulate the same quantity in some outdated metric like “Nielsen ratings” as some other thing in the zeitgeist is real dumb. It’s like going “Taylor Swift isn’t a famous musician, she hasn’t even sold as many records as ABBA.” Your fact is very tenuously at best correlated to your assertion and does not account for era and or how industries evolve.
Perhaps we'd be better off if more people watched John Oliver.
I don’t know…in some ways it’s just entertainment and people watch it cause they agree with it

Do these shows ever change anyone’s mind?

Real news is on PBS or the BBC in particular

Watching Oliver or in the old days Jon Stewart…..that’s just about snark and kind of exists to entertain and make you feel clever or something

Same with Bill Maher
Starsky wrote:
I don’t know…in some ways it’s just entertainment and people watch it cause they agree with it

Do these shows ever change anyone’s mind?

Real news is on PBS or the BBC in particular

Watching Oliver or in the old days Jon Stewart…..that’s just about snark and kind of exists to entertain and make you feel clever or something

Same with Bill Maher

i can agree, for the most part, about bill maher… but the information content in john oliver is much higher.  the guy has done deep-dives on utilities, compounding pharmacies and mobile homes - as sidehatch pointed out, these are topics that no one else is touching but are surprisingly important.  i genuinely learn something from his show (along with some laughs, and snark).
Starsky wrote:
Do these shows ever change anyone’s mind?


I don't know. Were people swayed by Alex Jones?
Starsky wrote:
I don’t know…in some ways it’s just entertainment and people watch it cause they agree with it

Do these shows ever change anyone’s mind?

Real news is on PBS or the BBC in particular

Watching Oliver or in the old days Jon Stewart…..that’s just about snark and kind of exists to entertain and make you feel clever or something

Same with Bill Maher
I wouldn’t call it entertainment so much as I would “preaching to the choir.” John Oliver might educate someone on an issue but if they weren’t predisposed to agree with him on that issue, they aren’t going to “buy it” or probably even be a person who exists within the ecosystem that his clips have ubiquity. He is, as is a lot of content, “preaching the the choir.” He fires up people who agree with him, he doesn’t convince. It wasn’t designed to convince. It was designed to be blurbed and get interactions from a certain demographic of people.
I think the way that a John Oliver clip goes from a pay station (that few people pay for) to being regurgitated and quote tweeted and reposted intensely by a small ecosystem of social media until normal people not on “progressive Twitter” get it in their social media and its cross-shared/reviewed on AV Club and CNN because it (intentionally or not) triggers an algorithm (or algorithms, plural) is not dissimilar to why we all see anti-Amber Heard videos everywhere or how QAnon spreads. And I don’t think people understand this mechanism at play enough and how some people weaponize it and other people who exist within these feedback loops do not understand that what they’re seeing is neither as ubiquitous as they perceive it nor organic.
It’s all bullshit
The State or [sic] Florida threatened the Special Olympics with $27.5 MILLION in fines because the organization had a vaccine requirement at its games in Orlando this weekend.

Late yesterday, the Special Olympics pulled the requirement.

https://twitter.com/jayobtv/status/1532717916331950080
lol:

Jon Cooper
@joncoopertweets

Just sayin’ — nobody has ever seen BOTH of these guys in the same place at the same time.

"It’s wild that yesterday it was revealed that the former President of the United States committed wire fraud and the general reaction from smart people (and also me) is that nothing will happen to him."

- Elie Mystal
^ i wonder if they meant "lettuce"… "Lettice" is a man's name.
sweetcell wrote:
^ i wonder if they meant "lettuce"… "Lettice" is a man's name.


"Not a typo."
I don't get it. Is this like a mnemonic device to remember that there are 5 great lakes? It seems like it would be more useful if it spelled out SHEMO or something.