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vansmack wrote:
shemptiness wrote:
What about 2 for 24?


He should go to the minors too, mostly to work on his pitching.


As usual, I am ignored and he will not start the season in the minors.  Mistake.
PLAY BALL!


RIP Le Grand Orange
Obtain…so cool!!
vansmack wrote:
vansmack wrote:
shemptiness wrote:
What about 2 for 24?


He should go to the minors too, mostly to work on his pitching.


As usual, I am ignored and he will not start the season in the minors.  Mistake.


Reconsidering?
Amazing story on many levels…will be interesting to see how it continues
shemptiness wrote:
Reconsidering?


Not yet, though it has been fun to watch.  All three of his HR's were in different locations, though I think they were all fastballs.  One was down and in, one was high and away, and one was right down the middle, so that tells me a lot. 

As for his pitching, we'll see today, but two starts against the A's does not tell the full story yet. 
vansmack wrote:
As for his pitching, we'll see today, but two starts against the A's does not tell the full story yet. 


I bet he would have crushed the Royals on Sunday, but last night was a little more like we saw in spring training.  I know they said he had a blister, but when he couldn't throw the slider or the split finger for a strike, the fast ball was served up on a platter.
I fear nats are in trouble…certainly a poor start…I wish they had made girardi an offer he could not refuse…scrimping on manager is stupid…you want to pay someone a million to manage a 250 million payroll??
Yeah!  We're #2 this season!

15. Troy Tulowitzki (minus-4.2 wins) - Future paydays: $20 million in 2018 and 2019, $14 million in 2020, $4 million buyout for a $15 million club option for 2021.

14. Ian Kennedy (minus-5.0 wins) - Future paydays: $16 million in 2018, $16.5 million in 2019 and 2020.

13. Homer Bailey (minus-5.1 wins) - Future paydays: $21 million in 2018, $23 million in 2019, $25 million mutual option in 2020 ($5 million club buyout).

12. Pablo Sandoval (minus-5.5 wins) - Future paydays: $18 million in 2018 and 2019, $5 million buyout of a $17 million club option for 2020. SMACKIE EDIT: (strange inclusion as Boston is paying for him to play in SF)

11. David Wright (minus-6.1 wins) - Future paydays: $20 million in 2018 (some of it deferred), $15 million in 2019 and $12 million in 2020.

10. Robinson Cano (minus-6.2 wins) - Future paydays: $24 million per year, 2018-2023.

9. Shin-Soo Choo (minus-6.3 wins) - Future paydays: $20 million in 2018, $21 million in 2019 and 2020.

8. Jacoby Ellsbury (minus-6.4 wins) - Future paydays: $21.1 million in 2018, 2019 and 2020, $5 million buyout of a $21 million club option for 2021.

7. Eric Hosmer (minus-6.9 wins) - Future paydays: $20 million per year in 2018-2022, $13 million annually in 2023-2025.

6. Jordan Zimmermann (minus-7.0 wins) - Future paydays: $24 million in 2018, $25 million in 2019 and 2020.

5. Jason Heyward (minus-7.5 wins) - Future paydays: $21.5 million in 2018, $20 million in 2019, $21 million in 2020 and 2021, $22 million in 2022 and 2023.

4. Ian Desmond (minus-7.9 wins) - Future paydays: $22 million in 2018, $15 million in 2019 and 2020, $8 million in 2021, $2 million buyout on a $15 million club option for 2022.

3. Chris Davis (minus-11.9 wins) - Future paydays: $23 million annually, 2018-2022.

2. Albert Pujols (minus-14.8 wins) - Future paydays: $27 million in 2018, $28 million in 2019, $29 million in 2020 and $30 million in 2021, plus $3 million for his 3,000th career hit in the next week or so.

1. Miguel Cabrera (minus-15.0 wins) - Future paydays: $30 million annually in 2018-2021, $32 million in 2022 and 2023, $8 million buyout on a $30 million club option for 2024 plus a $30 million club option for 2025.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/23288631/paying-back-their-paydays
vansmack wrote:
1. Miguel Cabrera (minus-15.0 wins) - Future paydays: $30 million annually in 2018-2021, $32 million in 2022 and 2023, $8 million buyout on a $30 million club option for 2024 plus a $30 million club option for 2025.
sigh
And on the other side -  the best contracts for teams considering money owed and expected performance:


1. Mike Trout - Owed $99.75 million from 2018 to '20

2. Jose Ramirez - Owed $21.4 million for 2018-21 with an $11 million option for 2022 ($2 million buyout) and a $13 million option for 2023

3. Corey Kluber - Owed $23.5 million for 2018-19 with a $13.5 million option in 2020 ($1 million buyout) and $14 million option in 2021 ($1 million buyout)

4. Anthony Rizzo - Owed $18 million for 2018-19 with a $14.5 million option ($2 million buyout) for 2020 and $14.5 million option ($2 million) for 2021

5. Carlos Martinez - Owed $46 million for 2018-21 with a $17 million option ($500,000 buyout) for 2022 and $18 million option ($500,000) for 2023

6. Freddie Freeman - Owed $84 million for 2018-21

7. Christian Yelich - Owed $43.25 million for 2018-21 with a $15 million club option ($1.25 million buyout) for 2022

8. Chris Archer - Owed $13.75 million for 2018-19 with a $9 million club option ($1.75 million buyout) for 2020 and an $11 million club option ($250,000 buyout) for 2021

9. Buster Posey - Owed $85.2 million for 2018-21 with a $22 million option ($3 million buyout) for 2022

10. Carlos Carrasco - Owed $8 million for 2018 with a $9 million option ($662,500 buyout) for 2019 and a $9.5 million option ($662,500 buyout) for 2020

Honorable mention Max Scherzer still is owed $120 million over the next four years (technically $145 million over the next 11 years with bonuses and deferments)

Others: Andrelton Simmons, Odubel Herrera, Eugenio Suarez, Jose Quintana

http://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/23295031/what-mlb-top-10-team-friendly-contracts
Didi Gregorious is having one of those Dee Gordon kind of seasons….
Oof.  Dodgers' Corey Seager will have Tommy John surgery and miss rest of season.

Huge blow. 
That sucks


I was at nats game Sunday…I worry bout team
vansmack wrote:
Oof.  Dodgers' Corey Seager will have Tommy John surgery and miss rest of season.

Huge blow.


Hmm.  The O's have a SS that they can deal.  For a price.