vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 23, 2014 at 06:17 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
Boz
I haven't done the full research yet, but only 18 World Series have gone to 6 games since 1980, so something isn't right.
EDIT - I think I see what he's saying - he's counting total games played, not series outcomes. Adding those that went to games 6 & 7, but even then it would 27 games played, not 26. When I get more time…
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 23, 2014 at 06:48 PM UTC
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Bosworth was off by 1, in favor of his argument however.
The home team in Games 6 & 7 of the World Series are a combined 23-4 (since 1980).
Of the 18 World Series that have gone to returned to the home park, the home team has won 15 of them (since 1980).
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 23, 2014 at 06:52 PM UTC
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James wrote:
Where are you getting your numbers from? This would seem to contradict them (?)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1811052-is-mlbs-2-3-2-postseason-format-fair-for-the-favorite
That includes the League Championship Series. In the World Series, the numbers are vastly different.
SSS of course, but by using their range of 2003-2013, the "higher seed" has won three out of four World Series that reaches games 6 or 7.
The problem of course is that home team is decided by the All-Star game and not the win-loss records, so determining the higher seed based on home filed advantage is a false premise to start with.
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 23, 2014 at 06:54 PM UTC
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What is the home record of the team that gets the three straight home games?
vansmack wrote:
James wrote:
Where are you getting your numbers from? This would seem to contradict them (?)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1811052-is-mlbs-2-3-2-postseason-format-fair-for-the-favorite
That includes the League Championship Series. In the World Series, the numbers are vastly different.
SSS of course, but by using their range of 2003-2013, the "higher seed" has won three out of four World Series that reaches games 6 or 7.
The problem of course is that home team is decided by the All-Star game and not the win-loss records, so determining the higher seed based on home filed advantage is a false premise to start with.
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 23, 2014 at 06:56 PM UTC
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James wrote:
What is the home record of the team that gets the three straight home games?
Haha. I was already working on it.
James Ford
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 23, 2014 at 07:00 PM UTC
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The problem of course is that home team is decided by the All-Star game and not the win-loss records, so determining the higher seed based on home filed advantage is a false premise to start with.
But this also levels the playing field (assuming no correlation between winning All-Star team records of WS teams) and is a good (better) premise to test my 2-3-2 three advantage theory on.
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 23, 2014 at 07:19 PM UTC
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All of these numbers are World Series since 1980:
The Higher Seed has a winning record in games 3,4 & 5 of 22-15.
The higher Seed has won 10 World Series on the road, only losing 5 with the 2-3-2 format.
Bleacher Reports small sample size was convenient to their point, as 3 of those 5 wins have come in the last 5 World Series that didn't return to the home ball park. Not coincidentally, the All-Star game also determined home field advantage since then.
But all in all, since 1980, the team with 4 home games has won 25 World Series and only lost 8.
Even since the change in 2003, the team with home field advantage has won 7 of 11 World Series titles.
Sorry James - no data supports your theory.
EDIT: I also need to correct one thing I said earlier. Home Field for the World Series used to alternate between the AL and NL - it wasn't determined by record. So the 2003 change is probably not as significant as I thought.
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 24, 2014 at 03:50 PM UTC
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This week, more people watched ?NCIS: New Orleans? and ?The Big Bang Theory,? and ? for that matter ? ?The Walking Dead,? the cable show about zombies [than watched either World Series game]. The audience for ?Sunday Night Football,? a regular season game between the San Francisco 49ers and the Denver Broncos, was almost twice that of Games 1 or 2. Even last Saturday night?s college football matchup ? Florida State University versus Notre Dame ? drew more viewers than either World Series game.
Perhaps the most compelling statement about baseball?s relative standing among American sports fans is this: Last summer?s World Cup match between the United States and Portugal drew 25 million viewers, roughly double that of the World Series opener.
gaaaaaaaaah
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 24, 2014 at 06:31 PM UTC
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so joe maddon is a free agent manager now
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 24, 2014 at 07:59 PM UTC
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So is this the thread to talk about when bands play baseball stadiums, or should I start another thread for that?
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 24, 2014 at 08:05 PM UTC
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Rogue wrote:
So is this the thread to talk about when bands play baseball stadiums, or should I start another thread for that?
It's the thread to talk about this:

vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 24, 2014 at 08:47 PM UTC
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gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
so joe maddon is a free agent manager now
Dodgers. Friedman is a genius….
gaaaaaaaaah
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 24, 2014 at 08:52 PM UTC
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my moneys on the cubs, but you never know. everybodys saying the right things which means no ones tipping their hand yet
the cubs situation seems tailor made for a guy like maddon
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 24, 2014 at 10:42 PM UTC
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I'd love to see Maddon return to Anaheim, Scioscia go to the Dodgers and Mattingly end up in Chicago.
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 25, 2014 at 12:51 AM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
so joe maddon is a free agent manager now
Dodgers. Friedman is a genius….
I heard a report that Maddon didn't even know he had an opt out. Until Friedman called to tell him.
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 25, 2014 at 12:53 AM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
I'd love to see Maddon return to Anaheim, Scioscia go to the Dodgers and Mattingly end up in Chicago.
I thought the dream (ESPN) scenario was Mattingly to NY and Girardi to Cubs?
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 25, 2014 at 05:40 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
vansmack wrote:
I'd love to see Maddon return to Anaheim, Scioscia go to the Dodgers and Mattingly end up in Chicago.
I thought the dream (ESPN) scenario was Mattingly to NY and Girardi to Cubs?
I'm down with that scenario too.
Shemp wrote:
I heard a report that Maddon didn't even know he had an opt out. Until Friedman called to tell him.
I don't know that he called him, but Maddon claims that he didn't know that Friedman's departure would trigger the opt out. It was more likely his agent that called him, but Friedman may have called his agent…
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 27, 2014 at 03:20 AM UTC
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Still liking my theory for this one. And hoping I'm jinxing the Giants by saying it.
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Re: The MLB Thread
October 27, 2014 at 04:10 AM UTC
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boy that MadBum can sure pitch……never seen a guy so calm up there.. he's cool as a cucumber…