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Hello 'Moneyball'

'Dipoto, according to sources, believes that the coaches too often rely on ?feel? while teams such as the AL West-leading Astros are at the forefront of incorporating data. The coaches, in turn, seemingly do not trust the information they are given, and either are not willing or able to translate it for the players.'

Nuke wrote:
Hello 'Moneyball'

'Dipoto, according to sources, believes that the coaches too often rely on ?feel? while teams such as the AL West-leading Astros are at the forefront of incorporating data. The coaches, in turn, seemingly do not trust the information they are given, and either are not willing or able to translate it for the players.'

Pujols was the most vocal to Dipoto about how last years team was stronger offensively.  That's not good..

grateful wrote:
Thank you for this important analysis.

I'm available upon request.

However, using fantasy analysis to decide who's better is an amazingly poor way to go about it…

vansmack wrote:

grateful wrote:
Thank you for this important analysis.

I'm available upon request.

However, using fantasy analysis to decide who's better is an amazingly poor way to go about it…

unless you're drafting a fantasy team….

vansmack wrote:

Nuke wrote:
Hello 'Moneyball'

'Dipoto, according to sources, believes that the coaches too often rely on ?feel? while teams such as the AL West-leading Astros are at the forefront of incorporating data. The coaches, in turn, seemingly do not trust the information they are given, and either are not willing or able to translate it for the players.'

Pujols was the most vocal to Dipoto about how last years team was stronger offensively.  That's not good..

DiPoto reportedly packed up his office last night. This is not the right year for me to change jobs….

vansmack wrote:

DiPoto reportedly packed up his office last night. This is not the right year for me to change jobs….

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It's good to be Bobby Bo.


'Towards the end of his career Bobby's star was burning out and he was caught playing cards in the Mets dugout with a fellow player while the team was losing the final game of the National League Championship Series. Months later Bonilla met with management to discuss his contract. Although they wanted to part ways, the Mets still owed him $5.9 million for one more year. That's when things turned in Bonilla's favor.

With two children to put through college and retirement to pay for, the 36-year-old ball player negotiated what has turned out to be one of the most forward-thinking contracts in sports history. Instead of taking a lump sum, which is what most financial advisers would suggest you do, Bobby and his agents offered the Mets another deal. The team would release him to play for another franchise and they would delay the $5.9 million payment for 11 years with interest. Essentially the Mets agreed to pay Bobby Bonilla a delayed total of $29.8 million in 25 annual installments of $1.192 million starting on July 1, 2011.

Today, the 52-year-old is on the eve of July 1st, what has unofficially become Bobby Bonilla Day and another big $1.2 million payday from the Mets. They will continue making his lovely direct deposits until 2035, when Bobby is 72.

Perhaps the next time we buy a lottery ticket and we're asked that question of equal payments or lump sum we'll remember Bobby Bonilla and remember the man who is winning at life. Happy Bobby Bonilla Day!'

Nuke wrote:
It's good to be Bobby Bo.

I love that story.  I remind every Mets fan I know that they're still paying Bobby Bo as often as I can….

vansmack wrote:

Nuke wrote:
It's good to be Bobby Bo.

I love that story.  I remind every Mets fan I know that they're still paying Bobby Bo as often as I can….

not just Bobby Bo, but Jason Bey as well…..

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/21727140/and-the-mets-two-highest-paid-outfielders-for-2013-are-

Kubacheck wrote:
not just Bobby Bo, but Jason Bey as well…..

I don't think he got the Bobby Bo treatment, but I think he is being paid the last installment of his ~$20m deal in 2015 as the last year.  That's only one year longer than his original deal.

So yes, they are paying Bay this year too.

vansmack wrote:

Kubacheck wrote:
not just Bobby Bo, but Jason Bey as well…..

I don't think he got the Bobby Bo treatment, but I think he is being paid the last installment of his ~$20m deal in 2015 as the last year.  That's only one year longer than his original deal.

So yes, they are paying Bay this year too.

yeah, he didn't get the full "Bobby Bo" treatment, I was just giving you more ammo with which to tease your Met's pals, the fact that a couple years ago, their two highest paid OF'ers were guys long gone from the team….  in fact, Bonilla is making more than Matt Harvey this year…..

http://www.businessinsider.com/mets-paying-matt-harvey-less-than-bobby-bonilla-2015-4

Well, the Angels just stopped paying Vernon Wells, and will be paying Hamilton to play for our rivals for the next three seasons, so I tread lightly.

But Bobby Bo for $1.1m through 2035 is just a great story when the buyout was $5.9m.  Slays me!

Miguel Cabrera out 6 weeks with a calf strain.

vansmack wrote:
Well, the Angels just stopped paying Vernon Wells, and will be paying Hamilton to play for our rivals for the next three seasons, so I tread lightly.

But Bobby Bo for $1.1m through 2035 is just a great story when the buyout was $5.9m.  Slays me!

agreed….  and while we're at it….

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/01/bobby-bonillas-isnt-the-only-deferred-money-deal-in-the-game-and-isnt-even-the-worst/

Wow.  The Bruce Sutter deal is amazing.

At least all the others were somewhat productive for their teams for some period of time.  Sutter and Bonilla though?  Not so much…

^^^ although, as you've pointed out, one big difference is that while all those other contracts were written that way, the Mets could've been done with Bonilla by just paying him that 5.9M 15 years ago rather than 30M he stands to make now…..   

It's very rare that Harper will listen to me, but Pujols won't - he signed up for the Derby.

vansmack wrote:
It's very rare that Harper will listen to me, but Pujols won't - he signed up for the Derby.

Trout said on.  [Exhale]

Interestingly, Manny Machado said yes.  He'll be on the DL by Sept for sure….

vansmack wrote:

vansmack wrote:
It's very rare that Harper will listen to me, but Pujols won't - he signed up for the Derby.

Trout said on.  [Exhale]

Interestingly, Manny Machado said yes.  He'll be on the DL by Sept for sure….

or suspended for throwing his bat at people he thinks tagged him too hard…..

The new derby rules should make for a shorter contest though.