vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 30, 2014 at 06:40 PM UTC
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stevewizzle wrote:
My predictions:
It's gonna be Pitt. Masterson to StL most likely rules them out (and probably means Price is off the block), LAD will keep Kemp (despite my earlier post), and Seattle will trade a couple bums for Marlon Byrd.
for those interested in following lester trade speculation: http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/84738-trading-jon-lester-news-and-speculation-thread/page-18
I hate to do this, but I think Billy Beane pulls some crap out of his a$$ this afternoon and Lester goes to Oakland, probably part of a multiple team trade (Tommy Millone likely part of it). The only thing that could possibly derail this is Oakland getting CarGo instead, which is probably better for that team anyway.
Pittsburgh gets AJ Burnett.
The Dodgers get Cole Hamels for Kemp and a prospect (I have no idea how the cash works in that one).
I agree Byrd goes to Seattle, with the Phils picking up part of the vesting option to up the prospect and for Byrd to waive his no-trade clause.
kmdobrz
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 30, 2014 at 07:49 PM UTC
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K8teebug wrote:
Crossing fingers he will be a loan to Baltimore. Although I know it's unlikely.
Would you give up Gausman? Bundy?
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The Orioles are in advanced talks that would send a pitcher to Boston in exchange for Jon Lester, reports Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe (on Twitter). MLB.com?s Britt Ghiroli tweets that the two sides are ?close? to a deal.
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 30, 2014 at 08:47 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
K8teebug wrote:
Crossing fingers he will be a loan to Baltimore. Although I know it's unlikely.
Would you give up Gausman? Bundy?
The rumor is the key figure is Miguel Gonzalez….
kmdobrz
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 30, 2014 at 10:04 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
Shemp wrote:
K8teebug wrote:
Crossing fingers he will be a loan to Baltimore. Although I know it's unlikely.
Would you give up Gausman? Bundy?
The rumor is the key figure is Miguel Gonzalez….
I'd say the rumors are wrong and the Sox want Gausman or Bundy. If they get Miggy they're settling.
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 30, 2014 at 10:30 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
I'd say the rumors are wrong and the Sox want Gausman or Bundy. If they get Miggy they're settling.
I'm sorry - when I said key figure, that's who the O's apparently offered.
I don't think the O's will give up Gausman or Bundy for a two month rental - I certainly wouldn't. Gonzalez is under control for 4 more years and not even arb eligible until 2015, so it's enticing enough to take a look.
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 05:54 AM UTC
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you're talking about trading in division, which means if the orioles want to get the deal done, basically they will get robbed. you don't want lester.
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 01:55 PM UTC
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Confirmed: Lester to #Athletics. Gomes to OAK as well for Cespedes
jrpa
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 02:30 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
Confirmed: Lester to #Athletics. Gomes to OAK as well for Cespedes
Boston just made out like bandits. Holy shit.
kmdobrz
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 02:30 PM UTC
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Billy wants it and he wants it bad.
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 03:25 PM UTC
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
A++++++++ would trade again
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 03:33 PM UTC
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Tommy Millone to Minn for Sam Fuld.
Billy has ruined my morning.
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 03:39 PM UTC
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stevewizzle wrote:
A+
I'm assuming this is grade you're giving me for calling Oakland getting Lester?
I don't think Boston is making out as much as everyone thinks. Cespedes is a free agent in 2015 - Oakland knew they couldn't resign him (2 months of Lester is worth 2 months of Cespedes as they likely would have traded him this offseason). His defense will be wasted in left field in Boston, though his power #'s should increase in that park. Still might be a negative WAR.
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 04:36 PM UTC
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I think Oakland made out better….
I am continually amazed by some of these trades Beane pulls off…
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 04:44 PM UTC
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Lacked to Cards
I mean why think Boston made out like bandits? Oakland was not going to sign Cespedes to a long term deal… thats not the way they operate
vansmack
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 04:49 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Lackey to Cards
For Allen Craig and Joe Kelly. That might be a better haul than Lester (though I haven't looked at the contracts yet).
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 05:19 PM UTC
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craig is signed through 2017 (team option for 2018), and he's have a remarkably bad year after having 3 straight excellent seasons. not good, excellent. the past two seasons were MVP-caliber even though he was largely unrecognized.
cespedes is no longer a young prospect and some of his plate discipline is concerning, but he's getting out of a tough division filled with pitchers parks and moving to the AL east where it's practically little league fields in comparison.
yeah, A+ to vansmack for calling OAK. but my prediction is heads will roll in OAK when it turns out they gutted their team for a win-now mentality and it doesn't work out. lester is a stud, but this is no roy halladay/cliff lee type of pick-up.
boston just traded for 2 all-star outfielders, mid relief, and got something in return for two pitchers who were out the door anyways.
jrpa
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Re: The MLB Thread
July 31, 2014 at 05:36 PM UTC
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Andrew Miller to Detroit. Not sure whats going back yet.