The MLB Thread

I think many pitchers use it, especially in cold weather.  Most don't hide it on their necks though.

Shemp wrote:
I think many pitchers use it, especially in cold weather.  Most don't hide it on their necks though.

Suspend them all.  Baseball needs to get their act together.  All the cheating that is going on is ruining the sport for me.  Doesn't anyone have any integrity in any sports? 

from what i read its a rule that i commonly flouted (sic)  by everyone.. pineda was just too upfront about what he was doing after getting caught recently

personally if there is a rule it should always be enforced..i don't care about how cold it is

Buck:

"Always, initial reaction is enforcing the letter of the rule," Showalter said. "My personal opinion is, instead of addressing the issue, they should address the problem. The problem is the baseball.

"We've been doing something pretty archaic for a long, long, long, long time and that's putting mud on it. The problem is, guys can't grip the ball. And you put mud on it and it's 40 degree, it gets slicker. If I'm a hitter or an opposing manager, I want you to be able to grip the baseball."

MLB to review the rule AFTER the 2014 season:

MLB chief operating officer Rob Manfred offered a comment on the issue:

?I think the way that the rule has been enforced, as with lots of rules in baseball, is that when there?s a complaint, we do something about it,? MLB chief operating officer Rob Manfred said. ?And that?s what happened here. I don?t think that this particular incident is all that different from other incidents that we?ve had in the past. We will like we do every offseason look at this issue, but remember, pine tar is one of a number of foreign substances, and you have to have a rule that fits for all of them. I don?t think there?s anything all that different about the Pineda.?

The main reason most managers don't check pitchers like the Sox did,  us because you can't be certain that your guys aren't doing the same thing.  The Sox had no choice because Pineda was photographed the week before and then ESPN caught him on camera that inning.  Farrell had no choice because of the blatant video evidence.

just a dumb question:

does this mean that during the playoffs starting pitchers  are putting junk on the ball? how else can they pitch if its so hard to grip a ball in cold weather?

Ladies and gentlemen,  your 2014 Angels.  Looks a lot like the 2013 Angels.  They haven't been over  .500 since opening day,  LAST SEASON.

A walk,  a K,  a walk,  passed ball,  a wild pitch (go ahead run scores) ,  HBP,  double play.

1 run on no hits,  no errors.  3-2 loss.

Shemp wrote:
MLB Local TV Announcer Ratings

I always MUTE Hawk and Harrelson.  The absolute worst homers in baseball.

Though I did just give away my Kuiper bobblehead from last week, I do think the Giants have a pretty good broadcast team.

But I always listen to Vinny when I can.  Even Angels-Dodgers games. 

vansmack wrote:

But I always listen to Vinny when I can.  Even Angels-Dodgers games. 

do people call him vinny?


but yeah…always a treat….a year ago or so i read the boys of summer and he was mentioned in there….. he's really one of the last links to brooklyn…

Shemp wrote:
MLB Local TV Announcer Ratings

I actually kind of sort of like FP. Bob is truly awful. Ray Knight is a joke, and Johnny Holliday is just sad, well past his sell-by date.

Shemp wrote:
MLB Local TV Announcer Ratings

My hatred of multiple required click-through is only surpassed by my love of Hawk being generally reviled. It's almost unlistenable.

Was he always reviled? My wife is from the south side of Chicago and she remembers of time when he was beloved, and according to her at least, was good at his (announcing) trade.

Julian, wrote:

Shemp wrote:
MLB Local TV Announcer Ratings

My hatred of multiple required click-through is only surpassed by my love of Hawk being generally reviled. It's almost unlistenable.

James wrote:
Was he always reviled? My wife is from the south side of Chicago and she remembers of time when he was beloved, and according to her at least, was good at his (announcing) trade.

Julian, wrote:

Shemp wrote:
MLB Local TV Announcer Ratings

My hatred of multiple required click-through is only surpassed by my love of Hawk being generally reviled. It's almost unlistenable.

I'm sure Sox fans love him. I've never met a non-Chicago person who didn't think he's the worst. He has like three trademark calls "you cannnnnn put it in the board," "he gone!," and, "Mercy!" that he uses to the point of self-parody. And is an obnoxious homer even by local-TV-guy standards.

Also his complete lack of professionalism. He'll get upset about some minor slight and just go are you bleeping me for five minutes or he'll be sad about a homerun and literally won't talk for 90 seconds at a time. And he's the play-by-play guy. He won't even announce balls and strikes if he's in a bad mood will just going to one of these funks, it's ridiculous.

Also, on a personal note, I find any grown adult who self glosses themselves a ridiculous nickname to be just the worst. His name is Ken, but he insists on referring to himself in the third person as "The Hawk" to the point it's caught on. You're 65 years old, stop trying to give yourself a nickname; you're a loser.

hutch wrote:

vansmack wrote:

But I always listen to Vinny when I can.  Even Angels-Dodgers games. 

do people call him vinny?

Dodger fans in LA refer to him as "Vinny", yes.

vansmack wrote:

hutch wrote:

vansmack wrote:

But I always listen to Vinny when I can.  Even Angels-Dodgers games. 

do people call him vinny?

Dodger fans in LA refer to him as "Vinny", yes.

ok good to know…my rehabilitation therapist's boyfriend has a vinny bobblehead on top of their tv..

I can't stand the Nats announcers.. they are so boring, predictable and just don't sound right…santangelo is an idiot….I'll take the Orioles guys any day….

Jon Miller remains my template of what an announcer should be like…where's he at by the way?

hutch wrote:
Jon Miller remains my template of what an announcer should be like…where's he at by the way?

San Francisco, where he belongs.  I tip my hat to him as I head to my seats right in front of his booth at most games I attend.

Joel Hanrahan to Detroit a year off Tommy Johns. At worst, can't be worse than what we had on pen already. Terms not announced yet.