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Prince Fielder and Josh Hamiliton. Ok there, Rangers. . .

Julian, wrote:
Prince Fielder and Josh Hamiliton. Ok there, Rangers. . .

Anaheim is paying $68m of the $83m he's owed.  No idea what Anaheim received in return.

Rosenthal:

Sources: Expectation is that #STLCards? Wainwright is done for season with Achilles injury. Has not yet undergone MRI.

Nuke wrote:
Rosenthal:

Sources: Expectation is that #STLCards? Wainwright is done for season with Achilles injury. Has not yet undergone MRI.

Major bummer.  Huge blow to STL too….

On the brightside,  it's not an arm, but I can hear the calls for the DH already…

vansmack wrote:

Nuke wrote:
Rosenthal:

Sources: Expectation is that #STLCards? Wainwright is done for season with Achilles injury. Has not yet undergone MRI.

Major bummer.  Huge blow to STL too….

On the brightside,  it's not an arm, but I can hear the calls for the DH already…

yeah, as soon as I heard he injured himself while hitting, that was the first thought that crossed my mind….. Wainwright is a big enough name (read: making enough money) that this could effect a rules change, whereas if it had happened to the Brewers 10th pitcher, nobody would care…. kinda like football where they had the OT sudden death rules for 40 years until Peyton Manning lost a playoff OT game on a FG without being able to take a snap…. suddenly, new OT rules!!!

The idea of instituting a DH in the NL is blasphemy to me.. the game is just fine the way it is.. one league has it the other doesn't…..

sad about Wainwright though…..but that injury could have happened running off the mound too..

Hutch wrote:
The idea of instituting a DH in the NL is blasphemy to me.. the game is just fine the way it is.. one league has it the other doesn't…..

sad about Wainwright though…..but that injury could have happened running off the mound too..

Yeah, well….

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12769662/max-scherzer-injured-batting-advocates-designated-hitter-rule-national-league

If they went the way of t-ball they would not have to worry about those over paid pitchers in the first pace!

Nuke wrote:

Hutch wrote:
The idea of instituting a DH in the NL is blasphemy to me.. the game is just fine the way it is.. one league has it the other doesn't…..

sad about Wainwright though…..but that injury could have happened running off the mound too..

Yeah, well….

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12769662/max-scherzer-injured-batting-advocates-designated-hitter-rule-national-league

I'm sure most pitchers would rather not bat if given the choice….I'm not sure what it proves though…

vansmack wrote:
Anaheim is paying $68m of the $83m he's owed.  No idea what Anaheim received in return.

$80,486,339: Money left on Josh Hamilton's contract through today

$67,486,339: Money Anaheim will pay over the next 3 years
$7,000,000: Money the Rangers will pay over the next 3 years
$6,000,000: Money Josh "forwent," which is actually just revenue the state of CA loses in income tax

He also has an opt clause after two years - not sure what Anaheim would be on the hook for in that scenario.

hard to believe that was a good deal for the Angels…. I'd rather just pay him not to play I think…I mean they're going to pay him now to play against them?


I can see the DH being imposed league wide but not because of one or two pitchers getting injured running or batting

the twin problems of lack of offense -baseball losing people- and pitchers blowing out their arms, though, requires different solutions and i'm not sure baseball will do anything

Brandon McCarthy out for the year for the Dodgers.

Hutch wrote:
hard to believe that was a good deal for the Angels…. I'd rather just pay him not to play I think…I mean they're going to pay him now to play against them?

The only deal worse than the deal out the door was the deal that brought him in the door.

The Players Association wouldn't let the Angels keep him in the minors all season and would file a grievance if they used a spot on the 25 man roster and sat him for three years (not to mention the clubhouse distraction).  There was never any chemistry between Josh and the Angels management, and it's been a problem from day one that kept getting progressively worse.  The final straw was when he waited until February to have his shoulder surgery, to be honest.  The drug relapse the same weekend as his surgery was just icing on the cake that gave the Angels an out. 

They had a deal to send him to the Diamondbacks but Hamilton vetoed it - he wanted to be back in Texas to be near his kids and handle his divorce - which also came out of that surgery/Coke filled weekend.  The Angels had two options: Eat all of the salary and release him or get $13m back from Texas and move him on.  If they kept him, they'd have to play him.

I hope they do NOT bring the DH to the NL.  On the contrary I hope they get rid of it in the AL.  I am not too fond of gimmick rules in sports.  IMHO pitchers ought to bat and if they gave a damn they would take batting practice to get better at it like all other players.  The fact that pitcher pitch is irrelevant.  Outfielders need to have a good arm to gun down a runner.  If you are going to DH for a pitcher why not just have an entire offensive and defense squad?

The shoot out in the NHL and the penalty kicks in professional kick ball (oops I mean soccer) are similar gimmick rules.  Either play the spot to the end or be OK with the fact that some games will end in a tie.  Some of the best hockey games I have ever watched ended up as a 0-0 tie.

I particularly do not like the shoot outs in the NHL where they mysteriously create an additional point for OT games.  Every regular season game should carry the same weight in the season long standings.  The only reason the NHL did this is so the casual non-fan would watch the games and see an 'exciting' play.  (IOW its all about the money.)

RatBastard wrote:
I hope they do NOT bring the DH to the NL.  On the contrary I hope they get rid of it in the AL. 

It will never leave the American league.  Too much money in DH salaries for the for the Players Association to get rid of it.

vansmack wrote:

RatBastard wrote:
I hope they do NOT bring the DH to the NL.  On the contrary I hope they get rid of it in the AL. 

It will never leave the American league.  Too much money in DH salaries for the for the Players Association to get rid of it.

You are absolutely 100% right and most probably it will end up in the NL as well.

vansmack wrote:

The Players Association wouldn't let the Angels keep him in the minors all season and would file a grievance if they used a spot on the 25 man roster and sat him for three years (not to mention the clubhouse distraction). 

If they kept him, they'd have to play him.

wow.I had no idea.

I guess then they did the best they could…

its just stupid.. if the problem in baseball is lack of offense then make a change so that there is more offense.. not just bring in the DH to the NL

I think they should look at things like the pitchers mound height and distance to the plate from the mound…

I'm more worried about all the pitchers' needing Tommy John surgery

Kirk Gibson diagnosed with Parkinson's.

O's-White Sox playing 2pm game tomorrow, CLOSED to the public….. also, upcoming series against Tampa switched to the Trop, but apparently the O's will still be the home team…..