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I mean compare Bochy's managerial experience in the postseason to Matt Williams….

thats exactly what im afraid of

williams had a good second half but they say everyones manager of the year material with expanded rosters so the real test will be how he puts the playoff roster together and how he manages playoff games.

but the royals showed that you can win playoff games in spite of your manager, so who knows

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
youre the only person ive seen object to the pirates playing for the division on sunday

Johnny Cueto, the guy they couldn't beat on Sunday but tried with their better pitcher, is better than Madison Bumgarner.  Adam Wainright, the guy they hoped would lose to the team with the worst record in baseball and was without a manager, is better than Madison Bumgarner.

Read Dave Schoenfeld, Buster Olney and Ken Rosenthal - they all said after the loss on Saturday that this makes the decision easier on Sunday to rest Cole for the Wild Card.

I agree that it might not have made a difference with the way Bumgarner threw last night, but the manager did not give his team the best chance to win the biggest game of the season last night, the only game where the Pirates could control their own destiny.  Bochy did.

vansmack wrote:

James wrote:
So who makes the 25 man playoff roster?

C - Ianetta
1B - Pujols
2B - Kendrick
SS - Aybar
3B - Freese
LF - Hamilton
CF - Trout
RF - Calhoun

BENCH - Conger, Cowgill, Beckham, Cron, Navarro

STARTERS - Weaver, Shoemaker, Wilson, Santiago
PEN - Street, Smith, Grilli, Jepsen, Rasmus, Salas, Thatcher, Pestano

The only one I missed was Morin in,  Thatcher out.  That means no lefties in the pen,  assuming Santiago is a starter and not a reliever.

Tigers bullpen has given up 8 runs in one third of an inning. I knew they'd blow a game spectacularly….

Not to dampen the swellness of it, but kind of wish the O's had saved that inning for tomorrow!

Julian, wrote:
Tigers bullpen has given up 8 runs in one third of an inning. I knew they'd blow a game spectacularly….

James wrote:
Not to dampen the swellness of it, but kind of wish the O's had saved that inning for tomorrow!

Julian, wrote:
Tigers bullpen has given up 8 runs in one third of an inning. I knew they'd blow a game spectacularly….

Hey Eeyore - who says it can't happen again tomorrow?  Stop being a menstrual cramp.  

Let's hope so, Pooh.

I need to find a bar with wifi so i can work and watch both games tomorrow.

Shemp wrote:

James wrote:
Not to dampen the swellness of it, but kind of wish the O's had saved that inning for tomorrow!

Julian, wrote:
Tigers bullpen has given up 8 runs in one third of an inning. I knew they'd blow a game spectacularly….

Hey Eeyore - who says it can't happen again tomorrow?  Stop being a menstrual cramp.  

ok i'm back….post FREEMAN


2-2

i was watching the O's when it was like 3-2 in the 6th.. i get to h street look in a bar and it was like 10-3!!!!!!!!!!!!

is there anybody out there???

smackie must be sweating it…

these fuckin' west coast teams are going to be the death of me!

it amazes me how dombrowski has all the money in the world to spend on the tigers, but never puts together a remotely competent bullpen

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
it amazes me how dombrowski has all the money in the world to spend on the tigers, but never puts together a remotely competent bullpen

The crazy thing is, its his stated point of emphasis the last few offseasons. He goes out and spends on it, and players immediately suck when they come to Detroit's pen. Leave Detroit, back to really good. Look at Benoit. Its maddening.

I'd swear there's a gas leak in Detroit's physical bullpen, but it happens on the road too.

well, first test of williams' playoff managing is in:

Mark Zuckerman @ZuckermanCSN
#Nats NLDS bench (assuming Zim isn't in lineup): Lobaton, Zimmerman, Frandsen, Espinosa, Schierholtz.
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Mark Zuckerman @ZuckermanCSN
#Nats NLDS bullpen: Storen, Clippard, Barrett, Thornton, Stammen, Blevins, Soriano, Roark.
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Mark Zuckerman @ZuckermanCSN
#Nats keep Soriano on NLDS roster, not Detwiler. 12 pitchers. 5-man bench.

at least he left hairston off i guess

Detwiler out, Soriano in? Did not see that one coming.

i understand looking at his whole season and not just the last month, but that has to be a favor to boras. williams seemed hesitant to even use him in mop up situations so i just cant see what his playoff usage could possibly be

personally i wish theyd taken another infielder, cuz who knows how limited zimmrman will be. not sure who though, since none of the september callup infielders really deserved it

I think GM's are reluctant to keep their big money guys off of the roster because doing so makes them look bad. Like the O's with Ubaldo. Ryan Webb=Ross Detwiler and Ubaldo=Soriano.

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Detwiler out, Soriano in? Did not see that one coming.

morse left off sf's lineup, fwiw

i like the guy and he was a blast to watch but all his injuries this year made it obvious the nats trading him was the right move

Standing room tickets available for todays game as of 5 minutes ago at Nationals site

James wrote:
I think GM's are reluctant to keep their big money guys off of the roster because doing so makes them look bad. Like the O's with Ubaldo. Ryan Webb=Ross Detwiler and Ubaldo=Soriano.

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Detwiler out, Soriano in? Did not see that one coming.

this makes sense.  i remember 2007 sox inexplicably kept eric gagne on their playoff roster.