Originally posted by sweetcell:I may have some permanent periphrial vision loss on my right side, but it does seem to be coming back slowly so I am hopeful that is not the case.
will your eye get better?
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Wow - Sorry to hear about all this. I hope things start getting better for you soon.
This country's health care system absolutely sucks. My sympathies to you; sorry you had to go through such trouble.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:I could not agree more. Ironically, at the bar before the sunday show, sweetcell and I were talking about how we both want to move to europe within the next 5 years because of the increased standard of living and socialized health care.
This country's health care system absolutely sucks.
I sincerely hope you feel better soon, Jules. I know you will. You'll be 100% by Christmas.
Brian
Brian
that sounds like a scene from Sicko, its just awful the unprofessional response of the medical system there…I really hope you start to feel better soon…
Since he appears to be alright:
Top 5 new board monikers for Julian?
Julian, One Eyed Wonder Weasel
Top 5 new board monikers for Julian?
Julian, One Eyed Wonder Weasel
Originally posted by vansmack:No man, the last word ALWAYS has to be capitalized.
Julian, One Eyed Wonder Weasel
Julian, occular DEGENERATE?
Not to play the part of devil's advocate here, but what did the hospital do wrong, other than not wheel him to the waiting room instead of outside?
He had an eye injury. He didn't need a room. A hospital is not a hotel.
If anything, the dude you gave the SP ticket too should have put you up for the night.
Did you have a hotel for the night or were you planning on getting back to DC?
He had an eye injury. He didn't need a room. A hospital is not a hotel.
If anything, the dude you gave the SP ticket too should have put you up for the night.
Did you have a hotel for the night or were you planning on getting back to DC?
If you're not playing devils advocate here, then what are you doing? :D
Hospitals give rooms out to people who don't need them all the time. Like women who give birth.
Hospitals give rooms out to people who don't need them all the time. Like women who give birth.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Being a realist. I don't think he deserved a room and I wouldn't have tought a hospital would give me one if I had the same ailment.
If you're not playing devils advocate here, then what are you doing? :D
Insurance is for medical coverage, not hotel coverage. The reality is, his eye injury changed his plans for the night, but that means he should have gotten a hotel room, not a hospital bed.
Originally posted by vansmack:My hotel thought I had pink eye and threw me out a few hours before I went to the hospital.
Did you have a hotel for the night or were you planning on getting back to DC?
As I said in a PM to someone, I'm not alleging the hospital did anything wrong. I'm sure everything was 100% by the book. It's just that "the book" stinks in the US.
I'm sure we'd all agree that if someone is literally blind and cannot see, in no other civilized country would a hospital wheel them out to the front and be like, "lol, later!" If I attempt to go anywhere – since I cannot see – do I not pose a health risk to myself or others? What's to stop me from wandering into the street and getting struck by a bus? If the hospital has a room, and I have sufficient insurance/money to cover it, is there really a harm in keeping me "in observation" for a few hours?
My hotel thought I had pink eye and threw me out a few hours before I went to the hospital.
As I said in a PM to someone, I'm not alleging the hospital did anything wrong. I'm sure everything was 100% by the book. It's just that "the book" stinks in the US.
I'm sure we'd all agree that if someone is literally blind and cannot see, in no other civilized country would a hospital wheel them out to the front and be like, "lol, later!" If I attempt to go anywhere – since I cannot see – do I not pose a health risk to myself or others? What's to stop me from wandering into the street and getting struck by a bus? If the hospital has a room, and I have sufficient insurance/money to cover it, is there really a harm in keeping me "in observation" for a few hours?
As I said in a PM to someone, I'm not alleging the hospital did anything wrong. I'm sure everything was 100% by the book. It's just that "the book" stinks in the US.
I'm sure we'd all agree that if someone is literally blind and cannot see, in no other civilized country would a hospital wheel them out to the front and be like, "lol, later!" If I attempt to go anywhere – since I cannot see – do I not pose a health risk to myself or others? What's to stop me from wandering into the street and getting struck by a bus? If the hospital has a room, and I have sufficient insurance/money to cover it, is there really a harm in keeping me "in observation" for a few hours?
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:And that's where your real beef should be, ladies and gentlemen.
My hotel thought I had pink eye and threw me out a few hours before I went to the hospital.
They were wrong, and you should have gone back and gotten your room back and comped. Maybe a suite even. And they call themselves the hospitality industry….
I knew something didn't make sense in that story.
ding ding ding. That's the sound of the hammer meeting the head of the nail.
Did your injury cause you to double post? That's really a cheap way to up your post count in an effort to catch up to me.
Did your injury cause you to double post? That's really a cheap way to up your post count in an effort to catch up to me.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
As I said in a PM to someone, I'm not alleging the hospital did anything wrong. I'm sure everything was 100% by the book. It's just that "the book" stinks in the US.
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Originally posted by vansmack:To be fair, it was a "youth hostel" with dormatory style sleeping, so I completely understand if they think I have a communicable disease tossing me.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:And that's where your real beef should be, ladies and gentlemen.
My hotel thought I had pink eye and threw me out a few hours before I went to the hospital.
But my bigger point is, I had absolutely no way to get back there. I could not see. At all.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:No cabs at the hospital?
But my bigger point is, I had absolutely no way to get back there. I could not see. At all.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Yeah, I don't know what happened there. Your post count title is safe, no worries.
Did your injury cause you to double post? That's really a cheap way to up your post count in an effort to catch up to me.
Originally posted by vansmack:I'm sure there were. I heard them call one for a guy to send him to a shelter. Again, I'm not saying they did anything wrong. I'm just saying, if they could've gotten the $$ for a room (since I have insurance), and I wouldn't pose a danger to myself if I stayed in a hotel room and couldn't see, what's the harm in giving me one. Certainly if my vision hadn't returned and I was still in a world of pain, they could justify I still needed medical care. It's not like I would've been taking a room from someone else who needed it more.
No cabs at the hospital?
The whole argument is ridiculous anyway. We all agree the hospital did nothing wrong, just some of us are nasty evil socialists who dream of France's level of medical care.
Cheers.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:Except that that would be fraud - easily in the top 10 reasons for increased health care costs in America.
I'm just saying, if they could've gotten the $$ for a room (since I have insurance)
I'm sorry this happened to you and it's a shitty night over all, but I agree with the hospital. And don't think anything would have been different in France - the doctors would probably have been on strike.