vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 16, 2014 at 04:52 PM UTC
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Too much emphasis is put on the save statistic and not the role.
Joe Smith is the "official" closer in Anaheim now, and Frieri is the setup guy. Two days after making the announcement, Smith pitched a 1-2-3 8th and Frieri pitched a 1-2-3 9th. Scioscia was immediately asked if Frieri was the closer again and he said no. In the 8th it was the 3-4-5 hitters and the 9th was the 6-7-8, so I had my best guy pitch to their best hitters.
That's how it should be done.
K8teebug
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 16, 2014 at 06:28 PM UTC
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atomic wrote:
K8teebug wrote:
I think they should alternate. Closer by committee. Be unconventional!
O'Day and Britton can alternate. Hunter should not. He isn't very good. He gives up way too many home runs.
the giving up too many home runs is exactly why I didn't think he should be the closer in the first place!
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 28, 2014 at 05:02 AM UTC
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@keithlaw Buck put the winning run on base, bottom 10th, with no one on. Someone has to ask him to explain that one in the postgame presser
kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 28, 2014 at 01:39 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
@keithlaw Buck put the winning run on base, bottom 10th, with no one on. Someone has to ask him to explain that one in the postgame presser
He walked a home run hitter to pitch to a pitcher. I'd say that usually works.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 28, 2014 at 04:01 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
He walked a home run hitter to pitch to a pitcher. I'd say that usually works.
Actually, I read where Buck was hoping that Gallardo had already gone home because he was pitching today. I don't like the idea of putting the winning run on
with nobody out - even if Gallardo doesn't double, most starting pitchers in the NL can bunt a guy over to second, and with Herrera and Segura following, the chances of getting him home that way are much higher than Reynolds hitting a home run.
Sure, this is hindsight for me, but Law was all over it yesterday in real time:

kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 28, 2014 at 05:32 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
- even if Gallardo doesn't double, most starting pitchers in the NL can bunt a guy over to second, and with Herrera and Segura following, the chances of getting him home that way are much higher than Reynolds hitting a home run.
Yes, but…. Gallardo probably wouldn't be sacrificing with two outs.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 28, 2014 at 05:37 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
Yes, but…. Gallardo probably wouldn't be sacrificing with two outs.
You are absolutely right. I misread that part and went back and looked at the box score…
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 04, 2014 at 09:25 PM UTC
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The Oakland A's are shopping Jim Johnson and are "willing" to eat most of his remaining salary in case you're interested.
They nearly traded him for a
draft pick.
K8teebug
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 05, 2014 at 11:31 AM UTC
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woah.
atomic
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 05, 2014 at 05:05 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
vansmack wrote:
@keithlaw Buck put the winning run on base, bottom 10th, with no one on. Someone has to ask him to explain that one in the postgame presser
He walked a home run hitter to pitch to a pitcher. I'd say that usually works.
But the home run hitter was Reynolds. You just throw three pitches in the dirt and he is walking back to the dug-out.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 08, 2014 at 11:22 PM UTC
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Machado was wrong on Friday and wrong again today. Grow up, kid.
atomic
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 04:45 AM UTC
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stevewizzle wrote:
vansmack wrote:
Machado was wrong on Friday and wrong again today. Grow up, kid.
both instances were beyond strange behavior, the kind of stuff that makes you consider if he has something fundamentally wrong going on in his mind.
I thought Buck should held him out of Saturdays game for acting that way. I am guessing he thought Donaldson was still playing third base. Embarrassment to the team. I would not play him for a couple of games. Then let him sit out his eventual suspension. Seems like roid rage or something.
Got Haggis?
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 12:53 PM UTC
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atomic wrote:
I thought Buck should held him out of Saturdays game for acting that way. I am guessing he thought Donaldson was still playing third base. Embarrassment to the team. I would not play him for a couple of games. Then let him sit out his eventual suspension. Seems like roid rage or something.
agreed. really disappointed in him.
gaaaaaaaaah
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 01:36 PM UTC
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that helmet flip after the tag was one of the most embarrassing things ive ever seen a player do. all baseball hissy fits are absurd but i can usually at least understand why the players frustrated. throwing a tantrum while falling over cuz of your own maneuver to avoid the tag is a new low. the confused look on donaldsons face said it all
and then he and buck had the nerve to go to the media and say you dont tag a player like that after hes coming back from an injury. bullshit. donaldson did nothing wrong whatsoever. manny would have done the same thing
i imagine hes got a suspension coming. i like the kid but he deserves it. its just a good thing hes had a good reputation so far. could you imagine if this was puig?
K8teebug
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 02:13 PM UTC
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I was at the game Friday and he did look like he had been pushed. But, after that, he needed a talking to. And he needs to learn to calm down.
I think he should be suspended.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 03:02 PM UTC
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K8teebug wrote:
I was at the game Friday and he did look like he had been pushed.
But after seeing the replay?
K8teebug
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 03:02 PM UTC
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Yes. I think you could make the case for that.
gaaaaaaaaah
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 03:10 PM UTC
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not really
look at the screenshot of the video here. manny's obviously trying to juke his way around donaldsons tag. even a light tag would have sent him to the ground.
http://deadspin.com/benches-clear-because-manny-machado-did-not-like-josh-d-1587524006
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 09, 2014 at 03:21 PM UTC
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K8teebug wrote:
Yes. I think you could make the case for that.
That's just home team blinders, sorry.
Machado jumped backwards to avoid the tag, and Donaldson, with ONE HAND, reaches out to tag him. If he wants to push him, he uses two hands…