vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 02, 2018 at 03:55 PM UTC
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Watched the O's for the first time last night. Sure, small sample size, but that's one tough team to watch.
They pitched well, only two mistake pitches all night, which was impressive. Of course pitching around Trout worked well, until it didn't - one too many times to the well.
But only Machado can hit. The defense is terrible, especially Alvarez, and I'm still not sure what Machado was doing with that throw behind the runner - a little league mistake. One can almost sum up the season in the play where Alvarez knocked out Sisco - Sure, they got the out but it wasn't pretty and a bit costly.
I fear it's going to be a long season in Camden Yards.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 08, 2018 at 07:29 PM UTC
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
May 09, 2018 at 04:08 AM UTC
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Angelos has given up….is he still “with it”?
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
June 18, 2018 at 04:30 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
The Orioles and Mark Trumbo, who was acquired last month in a trade with Seattle, avoided arbitration by agreeing to a $9.15 million deal. If you're keeping score at home, that's $12.85 million less than the annual value of the deal that the O's offered to Chris Davis, whom Trumbo may end up replacing at first base.
The Orioles Finally, Mercifully Shelved Chris DavisIt appears the Orioles will not, in fact, let Chris Davis have the worst season in baseball history.
Signed through 2023, paying him through 2032?
#freemachado
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 17, 2018 at 03:29 PM UTC
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Nothing should be more frightening to Orioles fans than hearing "The Orioles are going over medicals of prospects involved in trade."
And not because it means Machado is being traded (that's a good thing), but because this is usually where things break down in Oriole land…
For the record, I'll take the Dodgers on this trade.
kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 18, 2018 at 12:50 AM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
Nothing should be more frightening to Orioles fans than hearing "The Orioles are going over medicals of prospects involved in trade."
And not because it means Machado is being traded (that's a good thing), but because this is usually where things break down in Oriole land…
For the record, I'll take the Dodgers on this trade.
So who's involved? Name names.
Manny in LA seems a good fit. Would be funny if he doesn't actually get traded there.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 18, 2018 at 04:29 PM UTC
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5 Prospects from the Dodgers, after the O's turned down Logan Forsythe and some cash (the Dodgers wanted to stay under the luxury tax threshold).
Yusniel Diaz
Dustin May
Errol Robinson
+ 2 more are the names being floated.
I can't imagine the Dodgers would part with May and Diaz for a short term loan unless they can sign a long term deal with Machado in advance.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 18, 2018 at 09:10 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
Nothing should be more frightening to Orioles fans than hearing "The Orioles are going over medicals of prospects involved in trade."
Like clockwork…..
Steve Phillips
@StevePhillipsGM
Possible snag in Machado deal to Dodgers. Sources indicate that one or more of prospects coming to #Orioles have some issues in their physicals. Surprise surprise. May open door for other clubs. Stay tuned.
https://twitter.com/StevePhillipsGM/status/1019645897209270274
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 18, 2018 at 10:46 PM UTC
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They sorted it out.
Machado to the Dodgers.
Orioles getting top OF Prospect Yusniel Diaz, RHP's Dean Kremer, Rylan Bannon and Zach Pop, along with infielder Breyvic Valera.
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 19, 2018 at 01:03 AM UTC
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'Reports surfaced earlier today, including a tweet from MLB Network Radio’s Steve Phillips, that the deal hit a snag due to concerns over the medicals on at least one of the players. However, I’m told that they’ve been “all but addressed” and aren’t considered a hindrance.'
What do you think of the players they got?
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 19, 2018 at 03:24 PM UTC
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Will let you know in 2-3 years.
What do you think of the players they got?
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 19, 2018 at 04:44 PM UTC
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Well, let's start with the obvious - the O's got much less because they didn't trade him this past off season and which would have included a draft pick as well. If the O's wanted a top 1 or 2 prospect deal, that had to happen in November.
Diaz has trouble staying healthy, but he's played well in hitters parks and Camden is a hitters park. I think he'll be better than average, but probably not a star a la Adam Jones quality.
I don't know anything about the other guys, but most reports are that it's quantity over quality. Keith Law says Dean Kremer is the most interesting name in the package and profiles as a back-end starter or late-inning reliever. Rylan Bannon hits well in hitters parks only (good for Camden) and has a chance "to be a bench piece." Zach Pop is a reliever who's going to be a middle guy "if he makes it." Breyvic Valera is a potential utility infielder but probably not bringing enough stick to be a regular anywhere.
But, it's better than nothing as there was no way he was resigning with Baltimore.
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 20, 2018 at 06:28 PM UTC
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O's designate Chris Tillman. I can't remember the exact rules, but given his experience, I don't think he has to accept it and is probably done as an O.
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 20, 2018 at 10:54 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
O's designate Chris Tillman. I can't remember the exact rules, but given his experience, I don't think he has to accept it and is probably done as an O.
Can't say he didn't have his chances.
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 23, 2018 at 03:48 PM UTC
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Britton, Bundy, Gausman and Schoop are all hot topics in the trade talks today…
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 25, 2018 at 01:03 AM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
Britton, Bundy, Gausman and Schoop are all hot topics in the trade talks today…
Britton to Yankees reportedly.

vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 25, 2018 at 01:57 AM UTC
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shemptiness wrote:
vansmack wrote:
Britton, Bundy, Gausman and Schoop are all hot topics in the trade talks today…
Britton to Yankees reportedly.
[Insert pending medicals joke here]
In exchange for minor league pitchers Dillon Tate, Cody Carroll and Josh Rogers.
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 25, 2018 at 08:37 PM UTC
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Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, surprised by the Orioles’ finesse in the market:
“I don’t know who is making these deals — Dan Duquette, Brady Anderson, the sons of Peter Angelos, the ghost of Harry Dalton — but the Baltimore Orioles certainly seem to be operating with a clue. With their trade of Zach Britton to the New York Yankees, the Orioles have acquired three top-15 prospects from two of the game’s deepest farm systems in a week’s time. Their bounty for a pair of rentals, Britton and Manny Machado, also includes four other minor leaguers and a player with major league experience, infielder Breyvic Valera.”
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 25, 2018 at 10:23 PM UTC
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Law was fairly positive on the Britton deal as well. He said it was a better haul than the Mets got for Familia, despite Britton missing most of the season.
Tate is well known, and if he could just get a little break on his fastball, could be very effective. Pitchers with straight fastballs don't fair well in Camden.
Carroll "should probably just report to Camden Yards" right now. VERY high on him.
And Rogers "might be a fifth starter but more likely is an up-and-down guy." Needs to keep the ball in the park, which doesn't get easier in Camden.
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
July 30, 2018 at 03:55 PM UTC
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Unless Adam Jones takes a serious home town discount to stay in Baltimore this offseason, he just totally screwed the team over.