kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 18, 2014 at 12:02 AM UTC
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Nice raise from last year's $5.75M.
atomic
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 18, 2014 at 12:24 AM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
Jimenez - 4 years $48M is the rumor. Could get done tonight.
Good news. Hope he passes the physical.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 18, 2014 at 04:59 PM UTC
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The O's had to had to do something, and since they've now sacrificed their #1 pick, don't stop there - add Nelson Cruz. I have to think the O's didn't believe that Jimenez alone was worth giving up the #17 pick, but now they're free to add more protected guys, and their value is way down.
Jimenez is going to frustrate you as a fan much the way CJ Wilson frustrates me. He throws a lot of pitches per inning, trying to be precise with every pitch. He's also going to tax your bullpen as he rarely gets out of the 6th inning, if he gets there, but the O's are used to that. You got him cheap on the average cost per year, but added a fourth year to the deal - probably makes him easier to trade if things don't work out.
I just hope your pitching coach is already on his way to the Dominican to meet with him - he needs a lot of hand holding.
kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 18, 2014 at 05:08 PM UTC
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He's already in camp. And pitching coach Dave Wallace is supposedly fluent in Spanish, which should help.
kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 18, 2014 at 07:01 PM UTC
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I think Morales is a better possibility than Cruz.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 18, 2014 at 11:40 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
I think Morales is a better possibility than Cruz.
He'll never pass your physical.
Look, I cried the day he broke his leg, but he's never been the same since. He could barely play defense and run then, but he's really one dimensional now. He'll be an expensive fulltime DH.
I'm not saying Cruz is a prefect fit either, because neither Cruz nor Markakis have spent any time in left field, but if I take a chance (and truthfully, I don't think the O's sign either given their fear of any question marks on a players record), I take a chance on Cruz.
kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 22, 2014 at 03:50 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
The O's had to had to do something, and since they've now sacrificed their #1 pick, don't stop there - add Nelson Cruz.
Duquette listened to you, apparently.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 22, 2014 at 04:07 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
vansmack wrote:
The O's had to had to do something, and since they've now sacrificed their #1 pick, don't stop there - add Nelson Cruz.
Duquette listened to you, apparently.
Cheap bastard called me collect too.
1 year, $8m. Wow, how his value plummeted. Worth a flyer for the O's…good opportunity for Cruz on a one year deal to shine in a hitter friendly Park.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 22, 2014 at 04:07 PM UTC
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I really shouldn't post first thing in the morning…
atomic
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 23, 2014 at 03:54 AM UTC
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I am not crazy about Cruz but 1 year contract makes it a no risk move. I don't think he has a high bar to be better than our DH's from last year. Or 2 years ago.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 23, 2014 at 04:42 PM UTC
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Buster Olney says now that Cruz is done, if Morales should fall to $5-7 million, the O's should sign him too and make things really interesting in the AL East. With all of the other question marks, why not?
I'm more excited to see who takes the qualifying offers next year. Since Cruz, at 34, lost about $6m by not taking the offer, likely will never be a sought after free agent again (if he does well, the O's give him a qualifying offer he HAS to take, if he struggles, nobody is going to want him at 35), how many more players are going to make that mistake?
kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
February 25, 2014 at 09:55 PM UTC
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kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 03, 2014 at 10:18 PM UTC
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vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 04, 2014 at 04:24 PM UTC
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Johan is at worst, an inexpensive pitching coach for your young rotation. Smart move, even tough I think he never pitches in the bigs again.
kmdobrz
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 04, 2014 at 05:17 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
Johan is at worst, an inexpensive pitching coach for your young rotation. Smart move, even tough I think he never pitches in the bigs again.
And he may not be the only Santana they pick up….
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 04, 2014 at 05:39 PM UTC
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Shemp wrote:
And he may not be the only Santana they pick up….
This:
vansmack wrote:
There's no way Ervin Santana's elbow passes an Orioles physical. Don't even bother…
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 11, 2014 at 05:28 PM UTC
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Machado Disappointed by his new dealPay him a $1 million next season [2015] and announce the extension before that season is over, or he takes you through the ringer in arbitration and signs with the Yankees.
vansmack wrote:
atomic wrote:
vansmack wrote:
The Trout deal is a sign of things to come…after the season starts they'll announce the rest.
The Angels GM must be the worst in baseball. I am so glad the Orioles didn't end up with him. Just pay Trout a million this year and work on an extension after the season.
The longer you wait on a stud, the less chance you have of extending his deal.
From this point point forward, compare the Nats and Stras and Harper, and the O's and Machado.
James Ford
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 11, 2014 at 05:59 PM UTC
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An uneducated 21 year old making a half million and he's complaining? What a dick.
vansmack
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 25, 2014 at 05:21 PM UTC
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I didn't realize the O's got Lombardozzi in the Gonzalez deal. That's a great deal for the O's, turning a minor league contract for Gonzalez into an under control utility guy.
jrpa
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Re: Orioles....part 2?
March 25, 2014 at 05:28 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
I didn't realize the O's got Lombardozzi in the Gonzalez deal. That's a great deal for the O's, turning a minor league contract for Gonzalez into an under control utility guy.
I literally have no idea what my Tigers were thinking there. Why didn't we just keep Lombo and play him at SS?