Orioles....part 2?

Nuke wrote:
52 Ks in 3 games?  Uh oh.

The irony of doing it in Houston should not be overlooked.

But with the signings of Trumbo and Alvarez, and resigning Davis, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

Totally sustainable.

From Elias: The Orioles are the first team in MLB history to be out-homered by at least five in one game and then out-homer their opponent by more in the following game. They were out-homered by the Red Sox 5-0 on Wednesday and then out-homered the Red Sox 7-1 on Thursday.

 It?s the second time ever that the Orioles have hit seven homers in a game against the Red Sox.



They were out-homered by the Yankees today 3-1, won the game and have the best record in the AL.  I'll take it.

Update - Texas is a half game better after last night.

He deserved to get thrown at for talking about a deep fly out as if he hit it out of the park.

vansmack wrote:
He deserved to get thrown at for talking about a deep fly out as if he hit it out of the park.

That was a homer that the wind blew back.  That was a mighty wind.

Someone needs to teach those baseball players how to throw a punch.  That was a pathetic "fight."

Nuke wrote:
That was a homer that the wind blew back.  That was a mighty wind.

F7.

Manny misses four games, Ventura misses one start.

vansmack wrote:
Manny misses four games, Ventura misses one start.

Which is bs considering this is the 3rd or 4th time he's done this to another player. Manny should've walked to first base, but how would you act if someone threw a 99mph (his fastest of the night) AT you.

Guessing how some of you act when people post ridiculous words on the board, you probably would charge too.

K8teebug wrote:

vansmack wrote:
Manny misses four games, Ventura misses one start.

Which is bs considering this is the 3rd or 4th time he's done this to another player. Manny should've walked to first base, but how would you act if someone threw a 99mph (his fastest of the night) AT you.

Guessing how some of you act when people post ridiculous words on the board, you probably would charge too.

I haven't heard a single person on this board or anywhere criticize Manny for what he did. I guess I understand MLB suspending him because hey, he charged the mound and punched a guy. That's sort of an automatic suspension, isn't it?

I've been hit often, but I've never charged a mound.  I was also a temperamental pitcher that hit a lot of batters in my day - I was just never a flame thrower so hitting me hurt me a lot more than me hitting them.  This assumes I wasn't thrown out, of course, which I was often.  I would love to see a player who just got hit, turn to the umpire and look at him like "what are you going to do about it?" and if he warns both benches, then charge the mound.  If he tosses the pitcher then clap three times and take first base.

Baseball has always had a balance issue with SP suspensions and field positions, and I don't have a solution.  10 games+ for the pitcher would really cause a lot of damage to the rotation though - a team would have to bring somebody up or use the long reliever twice, which would crush the pen.  I'm really surprised they didn't give him 10 this time.  It's also why the Royals want to deal him -  he's going to do damage to the rotation.

But don't pretend like Manny was innocent here.  The first two in the second inning were inside pitches to get Manny off the plate, and they were fine.  Manny didn't like it, so after he flied out he told Ventura in Spanish "don't throw inside to me"  -   fuck that.  I'll throw it where I want and when I want.  Watch.  And he got what he deserved in the 5th.

Because the Angels needed somebody else on the DL….

Thanks a lot.

vansmack wrote:
I've been hit often, but I've never charged a mound.  I was also a temperamental pitcher that hit a lot of batters in my day - I was just never a flame thrower so hitting me hurt me a lot more than me hitting them.  This assumes I wasn't thrown out, of course, which I was often.  I would love to see a player who just got hit, turn to the umpire and look at him like "what are you going to do about it?" and if he warns both benches, then charge the mound.  If he tosses the pitcher then clap three times and take first base.

Baseball has always had a balance issue with SP suspensions and field positions, and I don't have a solution.  10 games+ for the pitcher would really cause a lot of damage to the rotation though - a team would have to bring somebody up or use the long reliever twice, which would crush the pen.  I'm really surprised they didn't give him 10 this time.  It's also why the Royals want to deal him -  he's going to do damage to the rotation.

But don't pretend like Manny was innocent here.  The first two in the second inning were inside pitches to get Manny off the plate, and they were fine.  Manny didn't like it, so after he flied out he told Ventura in Spanish "don't throw inside to me"  -   fuck that.  I'll throw it where I want and when I want.  Watch.  And he got what he deserved in the 5th.

Manny needs to learn to stay calm. But, how calm would you be if someone intentionally hit you at 99mph? I was at the game. The two "brush off" pitches were tries at hitting him. Then he intentionally beemed him at 99mph, his fastest pitch of the game. That's bs. Hard to brush that off. Plus, the pitcher has been known for doing this. The catcher didn't exactly try to tackle Manny, either, just let him walk right up there. KC had been trying to get rid of him.

Sorry about your Angels pitcher…

so whats wrong with the Orioles? they have the worst record of any division leader in baseball.

le wrote:
so whats wrong with the Orioles? they have the worst record of any division leader in baseball.

haha. They're stuck in the AL East. Still the best division in baseball, if your metric is combining records of teams in that division.

Too bad they've already played nine of their 15 against the Rays.

All that matters is the loss column. In the AL it's 36-36-36.  You can win more games but you can never lose fewer. 

K8teebug wrote:
Sorry about your Angels pitcher…

I was talking about Wright hitting 3 batters including Cron twice, breaking Cron's hand the second time.  He's out at least a month.

He didn't charge the mound.  Probably because his hand was already broken. #effective

le wrote:
so whats wrong with the Orioles? they have the worst record of any division leader in baseball.

From a numbers perspective, it's the same "problem" the O's had when they made the playoffs a few years ago - they're nearly last in starting rotation ERA, and they are dead last in innings from their starting pitchers.  All things I harped on last time and was proven wrong when they held on and I'm sure the O's brass think the same will happen again this year.  But normally, poor starting pitching and over reliance on the long ball are a recipe for disaster.

This one I called - Bundy to start Sunday vs Rays