Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 10:31 PM UTC
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No idea.
Some libertarian ideas are too crazy for me but my beliefs skew libertarian/liberal and there are contradictions.
But I am most certainly not a progressive liberal and I despise communism.
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 10:35 PM UTC
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For example liberals in this country cheered on Hugo Chavez as he completely destroyed Venezuela.
I want no truck with those people.
sweetcell
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 10:38 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Honestly one can’t engage with you - as with most liberals- as you suffer from TDS.
and maga suffers from crippling hypocrisy and/or willful ignorance… same same?
hutch wrote:
Liberals are going out of their way to justify illegal immigration: oh the price of stuff will go up!
uh, wasn't trump just elected on the promise of bringing prices down?
except that he's doing the exact opposite. now that's he doesn't need anyone's vote, you shouldn't expect the price of eggs to go anywhere except up given that all the folks working in stinky industrial chicken farms have been deported or are afraid to go to work. but please, tell us more about TDS…
hutch wrote:
I mean either we have a country with borders that controls who comes in and out or we don’t.
this is a false choice. you can absolutely have a country with strong borders - without dehumanizing those who got here under the old system, without destroying your economy in the process, and without putting ego and politics above dignity. "tough on crime" is a great bumper sticker but generally poor policy. this country is in desperate need of immigration reform, but that's hard work and requires compromises… easier to call in the g-men to deport all those newly-branded "enemies of the state" (and one looks really tough doing it to boot!)
sweetcell
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 10:44 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
For example liberals in this country cheered on Hugo Chavez as he completely destroyed Venezuela.
I want no truck with those people.
you're painting liberals with a very broad brush. the majority of liberals that i saw/heard from were not supporters of Chavez. most liberals don't like dictators who abuse human rights and spread poverty (that's more of a right-wing thing…)
sure, some idiots still cling to the fantasy that communism is good and will support any leftist asshole, but they're a minority (same morons who support russia today due to their blind allegiance to anything redistributive).
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 10:47 PM UTC
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Well lots of people are elected on promises that don’t materialize! Shocking I know
Accepting illegal immigrants because their low labor costs will help lower costs while also bringing and keeping wages down for Americans is not the answer.
I don’t think low inflation is a big priority for Trump whatever promises he made. I think he would actually prefer to see increased government spending even if it creates more inflation. That’s what he did in Trump term 1. And his whole business strategy was always debt debt debt followed by defaults and haircuts.
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 10:48 PM UTC
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No way man. I used to go to parties on Capitol Hill and Chavez was hip with liberals.
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 10:52 PM UTC
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I mean hell US liberals are literally taking sides with a communist terrorist from Colombia against the US!!!
This is the kind of crap that gives Liberals a bad name.
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 28, 2025 at 11:01 PM UTC
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Maybe I should use the term progressive instead of liberal.
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 12:06 AM UTC
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Space, you taking the buyout??
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-offer-federal-workers-buyouts-resign-rcna189661The sheer scale of what Trump is trying to do….
Doesn’t look like a great offer …8 months of severance pay but Sidefi will advise
sweetcell
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 06:17 AM UTC
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hutch wrote:
but Sidefi will advise
then do the exact opposite
Sidehatch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 12:04 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
hutch wrote:
but Sidefi will advise
then do the exact opposite
now now
Although 8 month severance is much better than getting a pink slip and shown the door
I could see a lot of anti-maga taking this bait
When I heard this, I was shocked it was a Trump thing, because ya know “cruelty is the point “
Some of the fine print is demeaning tho.
But this tactic achieves a lot of his goals
And it makes those leaving feeling like they got to take a paid sabbatical (because you know liberals love those)
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 01:01 PM UTC
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Tim Kaine was saying if you take this Trump will end up stiffing you.
An incredibly great point.
Sidehatch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 01:05 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Tim Kaine was saying if you take this Trump will end up stiffing you.
An incredibly great point.
I don’t trust Trump to honor that
He would actually gain more points by getting people to resign and then stiffing them. Maga would rejoice.
jeffml
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 05:12 PM UTC
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Agree
hutch wrote:
Tim Kaine was saying if you take this Trump will end up stiffing you.
An incredibly great point.
nkotb
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 05:51 PM UTC
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Down side? Probably get stiffed on the severance
Up side? Won't have to answer "I was just following orders" in 20 years!
Hutch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 06:32 PM UTC
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Trump rescinds Fed spending freeze
Sidehatch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 07:52 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Trump rescinds Fed spending freeze
Just the OMB memo was rescinded??!!
@PressSec
This is NOT a rescission of the federal funding freeze.
It is simply a rescission of the OMB memo.
Why? To end any confusion created by the court's injunction.
The President's EO's on federal funding remain in full force and effect, and will be rigorously implemented.
Sidehatch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 07:54 PM UTC
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classic brownnoser move
Florida Republican introduces bill to add Trump to Mount Rushmore
Sidehatch
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 09:32 PM UTC
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Hmm….not sure this is the message we want to get behind
@SenSchumer at news conference: "People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time."
https://x.com/cspanJeremy/status/1884643975262253117
kosmo
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Re: The America Great Again Thread
January 29, 2025 at 09:37 PM UTC
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Gitmo 2.0