The America Great Again Thread

Well he had no choice



It’s really lame of Trump to demand this

hAtchsIde wrote:
Imagine Hutch posting this:

Zelensky caves

details of the deal haven't emerged yet, so let's not pre-judge.  at a minimum it'll be better than the exploitative deal that was initially proposed… the new deal might only be 90% exploitative.  yeay.

Ukraine has to sign some sort of a deal with the US, even if the EU came in with a more generous (read: vaguely reasonable) offer.  the only thing Ukraine wanted out of a deal is security guarantees.  the new deal still doesn't appear to contain any per se, but at least by getting the US directly involved in Ukraine's economy the hope is that trump will be incentivized to protect his new cash cow.  many (most?) of the resources are in the occupied territories, so it would be in trumps economic interests to liberate those areas from the rooskiyz. 

also: i'm not convinced this deal will hold in its initial form, in the long run.  TBD if Ukraine renegotiates with a less imperial administration, or does a dine-n-dash once, the war ends… it's not like other countries haven't screwed over Ukraine via treaties and deals (RE: Budapest Memorandum, Minsk 1 agreement, Minsk 2 agreement, etc.). 

normally I'm not a fan of drug tests or Rep Luna
https://citizenwatchreport.com/rep-luna-proposes-mandatory-drug-tests-for-all-members-of-congress/

but this would be funny, I mean they would have weeks of notice, so who would actually get caught

The proposed plan would involve regular, random drug testing for all members of Congress. The tests would be conducted by an independent third party to ensure impartiality and accuracy. Members who test positive for illegal substances would face disciplinary actions, which could include suspension or expulsion from their positions.



@ProjectLincoln
Cannot believe she's attacking the GOP like this.

whoa, the VP has some opnions on this matter

@JDVance
During my senate campaign in 2022, I met a Ukrainian-American man in NE Ohio. He was very angry about my views on the conflict, and my desire to bring it to a rapid close.

"You are trying to abandon my country, and I don't like it."

"Sir, I replied, "your country is the United States of America, and so is mine."

I always found it offensive that a new immigrant to our country would be willing to use the power and influence of their new nation to settle the ethnic rivalries of the old.

One of the most important parts of assimilation is seeing *your* country as the USA. It's part of the bargain: if you're welcomed into our national family, you ought to look out for the interests of the United States.  I know many immigrants who have the right perspective, and I'm grateful to them. For example, I met many Ukrainian Americans during that campaign (and since) who agreed with my views, or at the very least, asked the right question: what is in the best interests of the United States?

this shock and awe is gonna do me in

Last night, House Republicans passed a budget blueprint to cut Medicaid by $880 billion.

Virginia is expected to see the second largest decline in enrollment. Nearly 700,000 Virginians could lose healthcare if Virginia's expansion is reversed.

hAtchsIde wrote:
whoa, the VP has some opnions on this matter

@JDVance
During my senate campaign in 2022, I met a Ukrainian-American man in NE Ohio. He was very angry about my views on the conflict, and my desire to bring it to a rapid close.

"You are trying to abandon my country, and I don't like it."

"Sir, I replied, "your country is the United States of America, and so is mine."

I always found it offensive that a new immigrant to our country would be willing to use the power and influence of their new nation to settle the ethnic rivalries of the old.

One of the most important parts of assimilation is seeing *your* country as the USA. It's part of the bargain: if you're welcomed into our national family, you ought to look out for the interests of the United States.  I know many immigrants who have the right perspective, and I'm grateful to them. For example, I met many Ukrainian Americans during that campaign (and since) who agreed with my views, or at the very least, asked the right question: what is in the best interests of the United States?

Classic fifth column bs….

hAtchsIde wrote:
this shock and awe is gonna do me in

Last night, House Republicans passed a budget blueprint to cut Medicaid by $880 billion.

Virginia is expected to see the second largest decline in enrollment. Nearly 700,000 Virginians could lose healthcare if Virginia's expansion is reversed.

This is some serious stuff….frightening actually

Looks like we reaching peak "May I Speak To The Manager" with all the I voted three times for Trump and this that and the other thing has since happened to me..

also the party of law and order unless of course you happen to be a well connected white guy, i guess only actual murder is the only thing they can't get away with

and i expect being a pretty white lady Elizabeth Holmes will be pardoned any day now.. or did she defraud to many well connected old white dudes

hutch wrote:
Am convinced none of this is about savings and many will be rehired or replaced at a higher cost.

It’s about appearing “tough” and anti-government. It’s all for show. All for playing to the deplorables.

Meanwhile it will- along with tariffs and general incompetence- help tank the economy which has to be intentional. A recession better now than before midterms? They can blame recession on Biden? Not sure what the rationale is

I think thety are ok with losing the midterms.  Every party wins some and loses some.  It will be near impossible to get these jobs back.  I assume the recession is intential so they can buy their stocks 'at the dip'

kosmo wrote:
Looks like we reaching peak "May I Speak To The Manager" with all the I voted three times for Trump and this that and the other thing has since happened to me..

a hallmark of the maga movement is the tolerance, if not encouragement, of the unjust and/or the unethical up until it affects them.  a lot of trump voters are discovering that they are in fact members of the parasite class. 

i guess they didn't learn the golden rule in kindergarten.

kosmo wrote:
also the party of law and order unless of course you happen to be a well connected white guy, i guess only actual murder is the only thing they can't get away with

"i could stand on fifth avenue and shoot someone, and i wouldn't lose a single vote"

Sick to my stomach. Never been so embarrassed at my President and VP.


We need a march on the mall to demonstrate support for Ukraine.

What is to be done?

A lot of people having been using the term ‘mafia’ and that scene looked like something out of a bizarro Godfather.  Clear message to respect the family. And you must take the offer that you can’t refuse

hutch wrote:
Sick to my stomach. Never been so embarrassed at my President and VP.

OMG this is insane these are our leaders
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cdel2npwe50o

"have you said thank you once…in this meeting"

"You've done a lot of talking"
"you don't hold the cards"
" your not acting at all thankful"

Trump says 'come back when you're ready for peace'
what a bunch of dicks

From axios
The U.S. insistence on claiming a share of Ukraine's mineral rights has been compared to a "mafia shakedown" by liberal critics, who point out that the country would lose land and mineral rights and get little in return.
"It's a sh*t sandwich," a Trump administration official acknowledged.
"But Ukraine is going to have to eat it because [Trump] has made clear this is no longer our problem."

I am not going to make it four years….

Z: "Mr. Trump, you are increasing the volume of your voice, but not the logic of your argument."

zero chance trump and vance can appreciate this line… but what a zinger

(desmond tutu said this first, or something very similar)

GLENN: Why don't you wear a suit? You're at the highest level in this country's office & you refuse to wear a suit. A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting the office.

ZELENSKYY: I will wear a costume after this war will finish. Maybe something like yours. Maybe something better.

as if this is no surprise

The guy who asked Zelensky if he owned a suit, Brian Glenn, is a reporter for the pro-Trump media network Real America’s Voice and also MTG 's boyfriend. He got one of the rare Oval Office interviewer spots only after the White House blocked the Associated Press.

also I guess these brown nosers  didn't happen to happen to notice the clown in a baseball hat wearing a t-shirt with a "witty" slogan on

and while i'm in rant mode

Some "journalist" on faux news said out loud why don't we have a equivalent to China's Belt and Road program… we did it was called USAID.  fucking morons the lot of them..

I knew the right wing media would go there regarding lack of suit. Mark my words: they are going to turn the Ukrainian leader into the enemy! And their viewers will buy it.

hutch wrote:
I knew the right wing media would go there regarding lack of suit. Mark my words: they are going to turn the Ukrainian leader into the enemy! And their viewers will buy it.

will buy it…they bought it 3 years ago

kosmo wrote:
The guy who asked Zelensky if he owned a suit, Brian Glenn, is a reporter for the pro-Trump media network Real America’s Voice and also MTG 's boyfriend. He got one of the rare Oval Office interviewer spots only after the White House blocked the Associated Press.

guess who else got in?

A Russian state media reporter gained entry to the Oval Office for Trump-Zelensky sit-down

you don't just randomly walk into the oval office.