Sidehatch
Joined: October 04, 2011 at 04:33 AM UTC
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Maybe we should just elect Trump president
vansmack wrote:
No other candidate on the planet could say that it was smart to make money on the backs of 9 million people losing their homes and still be in the race. It is defying all laws of politics.
Biden understands my shock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGvShZbInkc
Edit: Here's the full speech. The highlight starts at 2:30ish…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPYS0GiLnDw
That's clearly a sharpie tattoo. No way it's a real one
Relaxer wrote:
That's clearly a sharpie tattoo. No way it's a real one
I thought so, too. Then I saw the article. But just now I noticed the date :-[ ….
New vision for the Mexican wall
https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/videos/vb.114517875225866/1476198635724443/?type=2&theater
https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/videos/vb.114517875225866/1476198635724443/?type=2&theater
god i loathe pence.. he reminds me a bit of a reagan.. such a fake actor…. he's got it down though…
I enjoy how not once during the vice president debate was anything regarding Pence's record on gay people being discussed.
walkie,talkie wrote:
I enjoy how not once during the vice president debate was anything regarding Pence's record on gay people being discussed.
I didn't love it. Democrat fail. No love here for Pence, but Kaine was a disappoint in the 30+ minutes I watched.
I only actually watched it live for about 10 minutes and Kaine really came across as this creepy guy who is just a smug jerk.
walkie,talkie wrote:
I only actually watched it live for about 10 minutes and Kaine really came across as this creepy guy who is just a smug jerk.
You mean like a stereotypical Democrat? (And I say that as someone who will be continuing his streak of never voting for a Republican in a Presidential Election)
I like to think, we're all creepy smug jerks.
Kaine is a very Virginian Democrat. Careerists, carpetbaggers, DINOs, etc.
In latest poll of Arizona Clinton is up by two points. Wow.
I have to say a lot of the support for both candidates is pretty soft and a dramatic debate moment on Sunday could have a big impact.
32 days to go I want to be sedated…
I have to say a lot of the support for both candidates is pretty soft and a dramatic debate moment on Sunday could have a big impact.
32 days to go I want to be sedated…
Can we pivot the conversation a bit? Let's play hypothetical Clinton victory. What happens to Kaine's senate seat? I mean, yes, I know the governor fills it and there'll be a special election in 2017 followed by a regular election in 2018, but who gets it?
It's very weird with the timing. You need someone who can fundraise well and repeatedly since they basically have to run two Senate campaigns back to back, hypothetically. Let's play out a few scenarios:
(1) McAuliffe appoints himself. If McAuliffe wants Northam to be the next governor of Virginia, he gives him the ability to run as a de facto incumbent, something very rare in VA politics. McAuliffe passes the fundraisability test. McAuliffe, though, is not supremely likable. He puts the Dems losing the seat in play and if the Senate is 50-50 with Kaine casting tiebreaking votes, we run a serious risk of Hillary having a friendly Senate for exactly one year.
(2) McAuliffe goes with Northam. This is a Machiavellian powerplay if he wants to clear the path for Herring to be the next Governor (or at least the next democratic nom). If the Senate majority is more than one vote, he can risk Northam losing in 2017 with the chance to take the seat back in 2018, either by himself or another candidate from the below options.
(3) McAuliffe goes with the seniority choice and picks Bobby Scott, making him VAs first black senator since Reconstruction. (This assumes Scott wants the post.) He's a perfect middle of the road candidate. On the three big factors (does this look like cronyism, can he fundraise, do people like him) he's a solid 7 across the board. Outstanding in none, but no gaping issues. This seems the safest pick.
(4) Connolly or Beyer, the states other two Democratic Congressmen. Connolly looks like the better fundraiser but Beyer has more experience on a big stage. These are meh picks, although both come from fairly gerrymandered Congressional seats that the Dems won't lose in 2018. I would question either of these ability to win re-election, especially if Cuccinelli decides he wants a Senate seat instead of running for Governor again.
(5) Levar Stoney. Reeks of cronyism, but he's also young and personable and if he can get in the Senate, he can lock it down for multiple terms. Gets the Clinton/McAuliffe money-cannon fired at him. Will have to overcome the perception that a guy who is about to lose a Mayoral election in Richmond gets handed a Senate seat. (DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE RICHMOND MAYORAL RACE. I WILL TALK YOUR EAR OFF AND 90% OF IT WILL BE ME BRAGGING ENDLESSLY THAT EVERYONE MOCKED WHO I SAID WOULD WIN A YEAR AGO AND NOW THEY'RE CRUSHING. SERIOUSLY THE DUDE WE ARE ELECTING IS GOING TO GET MOCKED ON EVERY NATIONAL TELECAST, ITS AMAZING.)
It's very weird with the timing. You need someone who can fundraise well and repeatedly since they basically have to run two Senate campaigns back to back, hypothetically. Let's play out a few scenarios:
(1) McAuliffe appoints himself. If McAuliffe wants Northam to be the next governor of Virginia, he gives him the ability to run as a de facto incumbent, something very rare in VA politics. McAuliffe passes the fundraisability test. McAuliffe, though, is not supremely likable. He puts the Dems losing the seat in play and if the Senate is 50-50 with Kaine casting tiebreaking votes, we run a serious risk of Hillary having a friendly Senate for exactly one year.
(2) McAuliffe goes with Northam. This is a Machiavellian powerplay if he wants to clear the path for Herring to be the next Governor (or at least the next democratic nom). If the Senate majority is more than one vote, he can risk Northam losing in 2017 with the chance to take the seat back in 2018, either by himself or another candidate from the below options.
(3) McAuliffe goes with the seniority choice and picks Bobby Scott, making him VAs first black senator since Reconstruction. (This assumes Scott wants the post.) He's a perfect middle of the road candidate. On the three big factors (does this look like cronyism, can he fundraise, do people like him) he's a solid 7 across the board. Outstanding in none, but no gaping issues. This seems the safest pick.
(4) Connolly or Beyer, the states other two Democratic Congressmen. Connolly looks like the better fundraiser but Beyer has more experience on a big stage. These are meh picks, although both come from fairly gerrymandered Congressional seats that the Dems won't lose in 2018. I would question either of these ability to win re-election, especially if Cuccinelli decides he wants a Senate seat instead of running for Governor again.
(5) Levar Stoney. Reeks of cronyism, but he's also young and personable and if he can get in the Senate, he can lock it down for multiple terms. Gets the Clinton/McAuliffe money-cannon fired at him. Will have to overcome the perception that a guy who is about to lose a Mayoral election in Richmond gets handed a Senate seat. (DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE RICHMOND MAYORAL RACE. I WILL TALK YOUR EAR OFF AND 90% OF IT WILL BE ME BRAGGING ENDLESSLY THAT EVERYONE MOCKED WHO I SAID WOULD WIN A YEAR AGO AND NOW THEY'RE CRUSHING. SERIOUSLY THE DUDE WE ARE ELECTING IS GOING TO GET MOCKED ON EVERY NATIONAL TELECAST, ITS AMAZING.)
I had been meaning to bring up Morrissey, lol.
Space wrote:DON'T GET ME STARTED. HE CONFIRMED TO ME HE WAS RUNNING AT A GIN RELEASE PARTY 9 MONTHS BEFORE HE ANNOUNCED. IM NOT EVEN JOKING AROUND TO MAKE A JULIANS AMERICA STORY, IT REALLY HAPPENED AND I HAVE PHOTOS AND ONE OF THE BOARDIES ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA CAN CONFIRM.
I had been meaning to bring up Morrissey, lol.
sorry I can't do "hypothetical Clinton victory"… it is still a ways away…. anything can happen…
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