Maybe we should just elect Trump president

hutch wrote:

Side wrote:
looks like Bloomberg will be paying for the Paris climate change at the UN
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/michael-bloomberg-trump-paris-climate/index.html

one of the few republicans I actually like…

He is not a Republican…. by any measure I can think of….I guess he is nominally a Republican because he used the Republican Party banner to become Mayor of NYC but I mean look at him on issues…

I know that…I just like to say that I don't hate all republican politicians …just most of them

Side wrote:

hutch wrote:

Side wrote:
looks like Bloomberg will be paying for the Paris climate change at the UN
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/michael-bloomberg-trump-paris-climate/index.html

one of the few republicans I actually like…

He is not a Republican…. by any measure I can think of….I guess he is nominally a Republican because he used the Republican Party banner to become Mayor of NYC but I mean look at him on issues…

I know that…I just like to say that I don't hate all republican politicians …just most of them

Name some Republicans that you don't hate. Better yet, name some Republican positions you agree with.

Md. boy draws GOP elephant defecating on Trump's head, receives 100 percent on assignment


http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/259568749-story

of course violence is not the answer..


but I can empathize with a sense of outrage and utter powerlessness but not the violence……. like what is somebody to do? the president and his party literally keep beating up on those that disagree with no respect for the constitution, democracy or anything….

sometimes i feel it is better to just ignore it all for right now…. let him overplay his hand…but some of the stuff he is doing is just so bad..its hard not to become enraged..President Obama did some very good things..to see this sad sack of shit undoing them all- in many cases for no good reason other than petty vindictiveness- makes me sad..

the opening towards Cuba for example..was long long overdue…the only people he is going to hurt are those that were running small businesses in Cuba to benefit from US tourism… the people that run the place will be dandy

I know of all the things to focus on …Cuba, come on man
can't imagine that breaks the top 500 most important things facing Americans (other than a loud contingent in S FLA)

kosmo wrote:
I made the mistake of looking at the pizzagate hash tag on twitter and conspiracy theory regarding Comet Ping pong pizza continues to cycle out of control.. It's amazing what people without critical thinking skills can weave together from illegally obtained info..

Glad to hear this guy got convicted for 4 years today..
what an idiot

so basically things are like they were before the election after six months of the Trump surreality show..week after week we are told about how Trump just had his worst week yet.. how he might even resign or be impeached..drama drama drama..he made this mistake that mistake and the other mistake… how can this go on? can it go on? It can't go on!..he's going down…..polls tell us his approval rating (just like his favorability rating was before the election) is at "historical lows"…he is dragging down the entire Republican Party we're told.. they won't be able to hold the house (before)/we'll take over the house in the midterms (now)…. and yet, just like with the general election the Republicans are winning…they've won the four elections we've seen since the general… and newsflash to those who conveniently choose to blame Hillary Clinton for Trump's win in 2016.. Hillary has not been on the ballot in any of those …yet we've lost them all..even ones where democrats pumped in a ton of money (just like democratic supporters did with Hillary who outspent Trump by large amounts) yet on the democratic side there is this widespread perception that he can't possibly be reelected… many think he can't even make it to the general election..many argue it won't even matter cause he will be impeached long before… by a Republican controlled Senate? That is just not going to happen…

My belief is that the democratic party is too focused on certain issues that simply do not resonate with large swathes of the American electorate.. for example, standing up for the rights of illegal immigrants is a LOSER..there are other similar issues that while I happen to agree with the democratic party simply do not carry weight with a majority of the American people..we can argue about why that is but it is what it is…I think the democratic party needs more focus on issues that are not related to discrimination, the rights of illegal immigrants, the environment, etc etc.. of course these issues are critical but if the perception is that they are our bread and butter issues and all we talk about we will keep losing while Trump continues to tell people he is the number one jobs creator ever made by God… and if we focus on a daily basis on this meeting between someone in the Trump campaign and the Russians we will also lose… people just don't care or i should say, we need some people who don't care about those issues to find a reason to vote D…. if we want to do something.. what WE want about racism, discrimination, immigration, the environment, Russia.. then we have to win elections and those issues are LOSERs by themselves… ….unfortunately..it is not enough…Hillary relying on those issues plus "He's crazy!"  even with vast more amounts of money was not enough…I don't think it will be enough in the future either..barring some calamity which I hope does not come to pass it is highly likely that Trump will be reelected..

hutch wrote:
so basically things are like they were before the election after six months of the Trump surreality show..week after week we are told about how Trump just had his worst week yet.. how he might even resign or be impeached..drama drama drama..he made this mistake that mistake and the other mistake… how can this go on? can it go on? It can't go on!..he's going down…..polls tell us his approval rating (just like his favorability rating was before the election) is at "historical lows"…he is dragging down the entire Republican Party we're told.. they won't be able to hold the house (before)/we'll take over the house in the midterms (now)…. and yet, just like with the general election the Republicans are winning…they've won the four elections we've seen since the general… and newsflash to those who conveniently choose to blame Hillary Clinton for Trump's win in 2016.. Hillary has not been on the ballot in any of those …yet we've lost them all..even ones where democrats pumped in a ton of money (just like democratic supporters did with Hillary who outspent Trump by large amounts) yet on the democratic side there is this widespread perception that he can't possibly be reelected… many think he can't even make it to the general election..many argue it won't even matter cause he will be impeached long before… by a Republican controlled Senate? That is just not going to happen…

My belief is that the democratic party is too focused on certain issues that simply do not resonate with large swathes of the American electorate.. for example, standing up for the rights of illegal immigrants is a LOSER..there are other similar issues that while I happen to agree with the democratic party simply do not carry weight with a majority of the American people..we can argue about why that is but it is what it is…I think the democratic party needs more focus on issues that are not related to discrimination, the rights of illegal immigrants, the environment, etc etc.. of course these issues are critical but if the perception is that they are our bread and butter issues and all we talk about we will keep losing while Trump continues to tell people he is the number one jobs creator ever made by God… and if we focus on a daily basis on this meeting between someone in the Trump campaign and the Russians we will also lose… people just don't care or i should say, we need some people who don't care about those issues to find a reason to vote D…. if we want to do something.. what WE want about racism, discrimination, immigration, the environment, Russia.. then we have to win elections and those issues are LOSERs by themselves… ….unfortunately..it is not enough…Hillary relying on those issues plus "He's crazy!"  even with vast more amounts of money was not enough…I don't think it will be enough in the future either..barring some calamity which I hope does not come to pass it is highly likely that Trump will be reelected..

Very well said but what issues do you think would be winners for the Dems?

when it comes to cheeto I think its really important to get outraged and mobilized about the important stuff… the "health care" bill is important.. whether he holds a special meal to observe the end of Ramadan or what have you is not. Changing the tax code to favor the wealthy at the expense of everybody else is important…an increased focus on deporting people in this country illegally is not…scatterbrained unfocused foreign policy with respect to our allies and enemies is important…the fact somebody many months before Trump became Cheeto met with some Russian official or press conferences is not.. if we don't focus on the important stuff and provide an attractive and coherent alternative to the American people Cheeto will be in office for a long time…

it comes down to…
you can't make people care, who don't care

I can't believe it's not better

our tough negotiator really showed Putin!!!!!!!

video is worth watching..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/did-trumps-g20-performance-indicate-us-decline-as-world-power/8691538

Manafort Was in Debt to Pro-Russia Interests, Cyprus Records Show

Financial records filed last year in the secretive tax haven of Cyprus, where Paul J. Manafort kept bank accounts during his years working in Ukraine and investing with a Russian oligarch, indicate that he had been in debt to pro-Russia interests by as much as $17 million before he joined Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign in March 2016.

The money appears to have been owed by shell companies connected to Mr. Manafort’s business activities in Ukraine when he worked as a consultant to the pro-Russia Party of Regions. The Cyprus documents obtained by The New York Times include audited financial statements for the companies, which were part of a complex web of more than a dozen entities that transferred millions of dollars among them in the form of loans, payments and fees.

continued: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/politics/paul-manafort-russia-trump.html

i'm tired of this clown-car called the trump presidency already… how much longer before the wheels fall off?

(took 10 months for nixon to resign…)

Trump ain't ever resigning….forget about it.. the only hope is for democrats to win big in the midterms and I'm not sure that is looking so good..

He is one dirty "president"…that is for sure