Maybe we should just elect Trump president

hutch wrote:
Trump and Republicans are traitors

I don't understand why Republicans would continue to go along with this. What is different about Republicans in 2018 than Republicans in the Nixon era? Do the Russians have compromising information on them as well as Trump?

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
Trump and Republicans are traitors

I don't understand why Republicans would continue to go along with this. What is different about Republicans in 2018 than Republicans in the Nixon era? Do the Russians have compromising information on them as well as Trump?

That is the theory that was floated this weekend by a friend of mine
that during the primaries…senior GOP officials also worked with Russia…but at that time it was to make sure Trump didn't win
but it kinda backfired and they got stuck in the middle of this
but the prints are all over the gun…

Not sure I buy that, but makes sense as they are so willing to go to the mat for him

hutch wrote:
Why does everything go Putin’s way…

Can we just change the name of this topic to "Maybe we should just elect Putin President" and be done with it?

Felt like reviewing the genesis of this thread

Relaxer wrote:
One one hand, he and almost all of his supporters are the kind of people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything.
On the other hand, it might be fun to have a president that just yells and insults people all the time.

Relaxer called it first here in this thread…only jokingly 
sept 2015…jez those were halcyon days

I do have to disagree on the fun part…it was fun in the election cycle when we thought there was no chance he could win

Relaxer wrote:
I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I just cannot see Trump winning the nomination. At some point, he's going to be confronted with questions about what he would actually DO as president. And even if he gets some ghost-written "positions" he's going to have a Perry moment where someone questions him on "his" positions and he'll have no idea. I mean, the guy has zero shame so maybe he can blowhard past that, but at some point, this has to catch up with him. Doesn't it? I mean, he's defied all the laws of politics for months now, but I just cannot see The Establishment allowing him to be the nominee.

And if/when he goes down, who replaces him depends on who's left. Jeb and Rubio seem like the most mainstream options but it feels like Jeb is slowly flaming out and joining Walker and Paul in the LOL category.

but even as the Primary debates were happening even he didn't think Trump had a chance
some how nothing stuck, Teflon Don for reals

I guess no one factored the Russian meddling…

I haven't read a Thomas Friedman op-ed from start to finish in a while:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/opinion/trump-and-putin-vs-america.html

"From the beginning of his administration, President Trump has responded to every new bit of evidence from the C.I.A., F.B.I. and N.S.A. that Russia intervened in our last election on his behalf by either attacking Barack Obama or the Democrats for being too lax — never President Vladimir Putin of Russia for his unprecedented cyberhit on our democratic process. Such behavior by an American president is so perverse, so contrary to American interests and values, that it leads to only one conclusion: Donald Trump is either an asset of Russian intelligence or really enjoys playing one on TV."

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
Trump and Republicans are traitors

I don't understand why Republicans would continue to go along with this. What is different about Republicans in 2018 than Republicans in the Nixon era? Do the Russians have compromising information on them as well as Trump?

That is the theory that was floated this weekend by a friend of mine
that during the primaries…senior GOP officials also worked with Russia…but at that time it was to make sure Trump didn't win
but it kinda backfired and they got stuck in the middle of this
but the prints are all over the gun…

Not sure I buy that, but makes sense as they are so willing to go to the mat for him

actually this theory has some legs
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russias-plan-to-buy-off-the-gop-began-before-the-rise-of-trump?ref=wrap

…as I read through the affidavit filed by the FBI agent in charge of investigating her. It was in paragraph 18, bottom of page 5, stating that Butina wrote an email to “U.S. Person 1” to suggest a plan by which she would work herself into the good graces of “POLITICAL PARTY 1.” What popped out at me was the date. She wrote this email on March 24, 2015.

Why is this significant? Because Butina, being Russian and all, is normally thought of as being associated with Trump. But on March 24, 2015, Donald Trump was a private citizen. Nobody thought he was running for president (he announced his candidacy in mid-June).

In other words: Butina, working for a prominent Russian official with whom the affidavit says she conspired on all these moves, laid out this plan to her American contact to infiltrate “POLITICAL PARTY 1”—obviously, the Republican Party—before Trump was even in the picture.

If this doesn’t inspire some soul-searching among Republicans, I don’t know what will. You can’t plead Trump on this one, Republicans. You can’t say the base drank the Trump Kool Aid, and you had no choice but to submit. Here we are staring at clear evidence that the Russians decided in or before March 2015, before Trump was remotely in the picture, that they were going to target your party, working through the NRA, and bank on your winning the 2016 election so that America would become more pro-Russian.

wanted to post this in the 'on the eve of…' thread, but felt like that would sully that thread unnecessarily

Trump scores Own Goal
from Fox!

If Trump’s critics had scripted it, they could hardly have done better at showing him as the junior partner in the bilateral relationship. Putin was clearly in charge from beginning to end with Trump jumping in to blame America for problems Russia created and to denounce the same investigation that just offered conclusive proof of Putin’s wrongdoing in 2016.

Hearing Trump attack the intelligence and law enforcement agencies that daily do battle with Putin’s goons was so odd that we had to re-read the transcript just to be sure our ears weren’t playing tricks. 

Blaming America for the misdeeds of another country is never a good look for a U.S. president abroad. For Trump, accused by his critics of being a lackey for Putin, to make excuses for the regime in Moscow in the presence of that country’s ruler was an astonishing lapse. .

came here to post this awesome photo and got caught up in the ticketbastard settlement

figured I'd drop these too

also
Michael Jackson - Billie Jean ( cover by Donald Trump )

Anyone watch Bill Maher on Friday? BRUTAL.

Go away on vacation and come back to find out collusion with foreign governments is apparently legal now and the Trump cult all thinks they are the letter Q.

K8teebug wrote:
Anyone watch Bill Maher on Friday? BRUTAL.

Also his bit on why the party of Regan doesn't care that we are getting cozy with the Ruskies…

it's because they are unapologetically white and they would rather hang with white Russians than consort with all these non-whites (even though for 50 years they were considered an enemy)

News from the Department of Go Fuck Yourself:

Volunteers Wanted for White House Christmas Decor, Entertainment

Justin wrote:
News from the Department of Go Fuck Yourself:

Volunteers Wanted for White House Christmas Decor, Entertainment

Can we decorate while wearing an ITMFA shirt?