Maybe we should just elect Trump president

vansmack wrote:
Cool.  We're recreating the Republican Debate in here,

POTW

BTW…hutch has really small fingers

Sidehatch wrote:

vansmack wrote:
Cool.  We're recreating the Republican Debate in here,

POTW

BTW…hutch has really small fingers

they tell me i have beauuuuuutiful hands..

but you're short…little sidehatch

vansmack wrote:
Cool.  We're recreating the Republican Debate in here, just like Trump wants.

all of the posts have to come in at the exact same time, as if they're trying to talk/post over each other, for this to be a full replication of last night's debate.

Sidehatch wrote:
BTW…hutch has really small fingers

It's funny, Sweetcell and I were just talking earlier this week about how he is the Donald Trump of the board. It's really quite errie the resemblance in their characters. Blowhard assholes, completely untethered by any facts, who talk for the edification of hearing their own voice.

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:
I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"

Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?

because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with

You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:
I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"

Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?

because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with

You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?

You're conflating two things. I care about my family more than a stranger not because my family is from America and the stranger is not, but because I personally know them. The same is true if the stranger is from Oregon. One's affection for those they are closest to is generally not a byproduct of jingoism.

OTOH, the idea that a stranger from the US should be favored over a stranger from another country, like Sidehatch is talking about, is pure nationalism. Apples, oranges.

Julian, wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:
I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"

Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?

because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with

You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?

You're conflating two things. I care about my family more than a stranger not because my family is from America and the stranger is not, but because I personally know them. The same is true if the stranger is from Oregon. One's affection for those they are closest to is generally not a byproduct of jingoism.

OTOH, the idea that a stranger from the US should be favored over a stranger from another country, like Sidehatch is talking about, is pure nationalism. Apples, oranges.

All things equal, I have no problem giving preference to my fellow American over a stranger from foreign land.

Julian, wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:
I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"

Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?

because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with

You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?

You're conflating two things. I care about my family more than a stranger not because my family is from America and the stranger is not, but because I personally know them. The same is true if the stranger is from Oregon. One's affection for those they are closest to is generally not a byproduct of jingoism.

OTOH, the idea that a stranger from the US should be favored over a stranger from another country, like Sidehatch is talking about, is pure nationalism. Apples, oranges.

always hard to say this, but I think jules got it right here
Of course I care more about my friends and family (although seems hutch and I are contradicting that statement)….but I don't think that the lives of other humans on this planet are worthless
I think that a lot of people and corporations really don't care and think that their welfare is of little concern

Space wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"

Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?

because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with

You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?

All things equal, I have no problem giving preference to my fellow American over a stranger from foreign land.

but you are making it like it's Sophie's choice
Why can you care about your friends, family, Americans and other humans around the world?
and just because they aren't related to you or live on your block…how can you in good conscience be ok with them being treated like subhumans…just so you can have cheap t-shirts and iphones

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Space wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:

Space wrote:

I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"

Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?

because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with

You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?

All things equal, I have no problem giving preference to my fellow American over a stranger from foreign land.

but you are making it like it's Sophie's choice
Why can you care about your friends, family, Americans and other humans around the world?
and just because they aren't related to you or live on your block…how can you in good conscience be ok with them being treated like subhumans…just so you can have cheap t-shirts and iphones

I never said I was ok with anyone being treated as subhumans. I just said that American lives matter more to me than those in developing nations.

vansmack wrote:
just like Trump wants.

I didn't quite get this…do you think Trump wants us to anything other than vote for him and not scrutinize anything he says?

Julian, wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:
BTW…hutch has really small fingers

It's funny, Sweetcell and I were just talking earlier this week about how he is the Donald Trump of the board. It's really quite errie the resemblance in their characters. Blowhard assholes, completely untethered by any facts, who talk for the edification of hearing their own voice.

well its a rather thankless job, evidently, but somebody has to do it… ;D

earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1

I was proud of my son for voting for me…

Donald wrote:
earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1

I was proud of my son for voting for me…

was Bernie even on the ballot?!

Sidehatch wrote:

Donald wrote:
earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1

I was proud of my son for voting for me…

was Bernie even on the ballot?!

this was very informal… something they came up with over lunch which couldn't take place at the cafeteria due to voting.. I don't know why nobody chimed in for Bernie.. I know my son came back reporting that I use bad words… which is true…but I'm glad he still voted for me. MY son loves me because I am always ahead in the polls and I always win..its true….did I mention there is going to be so much winning when I'm president y'all are going to get sick of it?

Sidehatch wrote:

vansmack wrote:
just like Trump wants.

I didn't quite get this…do you think Trump wants us to anything other than vote for him and not scrutinize anything he says?

No.  His aim is to bring the level of discourse down to such a ridiculously low level that it becomes accepted as the norm.  That way his antics are given a pass.

ok have we all kissed and made up  today?  or do i need to book a park for a duel…  can we chalk up whatever when down today as a case of the fridays? 

Donald wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:

Donald wrote:
earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1

I was proud of my son for voting for me…

was Bernie even on the ballot?!

this was very informal… something they came up with over lunch which couldn't take place at the cafeteria due to voting.. I don't know why nobody chimed in for Bernie.. I know my son came back reporting that I use bad words… which is true…but I'm glad he still voted for me. MY son loves me because I am always ahead in the polls and I always win..its true….did I mention there is going to be so much winning when I'm president y'all are going to get sick of it?

Can you please ask Ivanka to stop calling me? I've told her it is done. Multiple times. I don't want to involve the police.

kosmo wrote:
ok have we all kissed and made up  today?  or do i need to book a park for a duel…  can we chalk up whatever when down today as a case of the fridays? 

Its up to him but I was a two time all American in fencing.