Maybe we should just elect Trump president

The final tally could be odd or even. They didn't take that into account when they invented the electoral system.

I just want to see trump become president . . . then 6 months go by, and all the people who think he is going to change the country for the better; for the better for them; for the little guy who can't get ahead; who feels oppressed by the system; who can't make it; and then they realize that trump is just another rich person who doesn't give ten shits about the little guy.

walkie,talkie wrote:
I just want to see trump become president . . . then 6 months go by, and all the people who think he is going to change the country for the better; for the better for them; for the little guy who can't get ahead; who feels oppressed by the system; who can't make it; and then they realize that trump is just another rich person who doesn't give ten shits about the little guy.

This isn't remotely going to happen though. You really think those Trump idiots are self-aware enough to say "Oh wow, this candidate for whom I dedicated all my brainless hopes and dreams has not delivered on the very vague and contradictory promises he made!" They'll just blame Obama and Hillary more. That's what they do. That's ALL they do. Blame, mislead, and complain.

A Trump presidency will be four years of utter disaster, and the GOP will take accountability for none of it.

walkie,talkie wrote:
I just want to see trump become president . . . then 6 months go by, and all the people who think he is going to change the country for the better; for the better for them; for the little guy who can't get ahead; who feels oppressed by the system; who can't make it; and then they realize that trump is just another rich person who doesn't give ten shits about the little guy.

Trevor Noah took on this question last night, starting at about 7:59 in this clip:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/zqbtxj/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-envisioning-president-trump-s-first-term

well that is the nightmare scenario I identified months ago….a tie which goes to the House and hence Trump wins….I think the House votes by state (each delegation)…. is someone predicting the map you posted? I see that as a worst case scenario..

I still think NH is part of Hillary's firewall…but of course if there is big shift happening it would take NH with it….

All the states in blue are comfortable Hillary states I have to think…but as I identified a few months ago it only gets her to 269….


The more I read about Comey and what he did the angrier I get

its funny.. Republicans are always super confident no matter what the polls say… democrats are always shitting themselves at the first sign of potential trouble…

Is there one last suprise left? Could the Justice department reach some sort of conclusion on the emails in question before the election?

I still think everything should point to a conclusive Hillary victory but I worry because nobody ever got poor underestimating the intelligence of the American people…

Didn't I just hear yesterday that the Trump campaign has all but conceded NC and is moving resources to other states?

One possible outcome being discussed is that Comey's unprecedented interference makes it unlikely democrats take back the senate and forget about the house with Hillary getting into power in a fairly weak state… Republicans would immediately ramp up all investigations of her… not to mention a possible confrontation between the FBI and the executive which could go on for years.. Comey apparently can't be removed by the president….

Julian, wrote:
Didn't I just hear yesterday that the Trump campaign has all but conceded NC and is moving resources to other states?

all that is not going to matter if there is an anti-Hillary wave.. organization/advertising/ground game can help you a few points here or there but that is about it…

I mean if organization and spending is what determines an election its of course long over… Hillary has raised and spent like 4 times more than Trump.. she has built an organization full of experienced people over the past 10 years! Meanwhile Trump's organization is Donald Trump and a few people that go on TV…

We'll know on election day what happened….at this point we don't know..we think Hillary will win.. we know she should but that's about it

Relaxer wrote:
FEAR

that isn't quite the nightmare scenario that it might appear to be at first glance.  a tie would mean that trump would not become president (senate would never choose him)… a trump presidency is the REAL nightmare.

Space wrote:

bearman wrote:
I had a nightmare last night that he won. But I think it's just post-traumatic stress from having been in an earthquake in Italy last week. At least that's what I'm telling myself.

Woah, tell more firsthand accounts about Italy and the earthquake. We're headed to Northern Italy in June/July.

Italy was stunning. Just incredible. If you're in the north and have access to a car, go to this place: http://ristoranteborsa.it/eng/index.html ; It's probably the one meal that I'd request before I leave the planet. It's near Verona.

As for the earthquake, I was in my hotel elevator and it was a 5.9. Felt like being in a cocktail shaker without the booze. Not pleasant. Lots of aftershocks too during the night. But it was interesting to say that I've been in a fairly significant quake.

sweetcell wrote:

Relaxer wrote:
FEAR

that isn't quite the nightmare scenario that it might appear to be at first glance.  a tie would mean that trump would not become president (senate would never choose him)… a trump presidency is the REAL nightmare.

huh? do you not read what i write? (don't answer)

its the HOUSE that breaks the tie.. by State Delegation…. Trump would obviously win..even if the Senate had to choose he would win..but they don't…

bearman wrote:

Space wrote:

bearman wrote:
I had a nightmare last night that he won. But I think it's just post-traumatic stress from having been in an earthquake in Italy last week. At least that's what I'm telling myself.

Woah, tell more firsthand accounts about Italy and the earthquake. We're headed to Northern Italy in June/July.

Italy was stunning. Just incredible. If you're in the north and have access to a car, go to this place: http://ristoranteborsa.it/eng/index.html  It's probably the one meal that I'd request before I leave the planet. It's near Verona.

As for the earthquake, I was in my hotel elevator and it was a 5.9. Felt like being in a cocktail shaker without the booze. Not pleasant. Lots of aftershocks too during the night. But it was interesting to say that I've been in a fairly significant quake.

THanks! The closest we are staying to there is Malcesine on Lake Garda. But a daytrip by car to Verona and surrounding area is on the list of maybes.

The DC earthquake was 5.8, by comparison.

Now, how do I pivot this back to Trump?

yea i read and sorry, typo, meant house… but they wouldn't choose trump.  they'd likely go with McMullin.

sweetcell wrote:
yea i read and sorry, typo, meant house… but they wouldn't choose trump.  they'd likely go with McMullin.

The important thing is for McMullin to be on the ballot for the House, he has to get at least one electoral vote.

you guys are crazy.. they will totally go for Trump if that happens… if Trump manages to tie there is no way they will overturn the voters "will".. everyone will see that as a huge Trump win as he was behind for months/underdog..


and even more so if he pulls of the popular vote…


I don't think he will mind you..

lol the house is not going to elect Noted Gay Mormon Evan McMullin. I am not saying this to disparage McMullin or his orientation at all, because I don't know who he is. Except that he considers himself a conservative so I probably think he's a douchebag.

All Hail Nate Silver!

Crazy and not-so-crazy scenarios

Here are the chances we?ll see these election outcomes.

Electoral College deadlock no candidate gets 270 electoral votes 1.0%
Electoral College 269-269 tie 0.4%
Recount at least one decisive state within 0.5 ppt 6.9%
Clinton wins popular vote 82.4%
Trump wins popular vote 17.6%
Clinton wins popular vote but loses Electoral College 10.9%
Trump wins popular vote but loses Electoral College 0.4%
Johnson wins at least one electoral vote 0.3%
McMullin wins at least one electoral vote 19.2%
Clinton majority wins at least 50 percent of the vote 34.5%
Trump majority wins at least 50 percent of the vote 2.8%
Clinton landslide double-digit popular vote margin 9.0%
Trump landslide double-digit popular vote margin 0.4%
Map exactly the same as in 2012 0.2%
Clinton wins at least one state Mitt Romney won in 2012 73.7%
Trump wins at least one state President Obama won in 2012 81.2%

who cares? its just based on the polls 8-10 days out…. at least if it was the final polls i might give it some credence…

I'd be scared to see what Pence's playlist is like
but cool to see Lucy Dacus made it to Tim's playlist

Now, we?re not saying you should vote based on music taste, but there?s something distinctly alluring about having an avowed Replacements fan be one heartbeat away from the presidency