Maybe we should just elect Trump president

Sidehatch wrote:

hutch wrote:

i don't think you understand the way Carville meant it…

didn't watch the vid  ;D

use your imagination

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What does it mean if trump wins new Hampshire, like everyone is saying he is?

walk,on,by wrote:
What does it mean if trump wins new Hampshire, like everyone is saying he is?

Nothing.

The primaries don't really start to matter until South Carolina and then Super Tuesday.

vansmack wrote:
The primaries don't really start to matter until South Carolina and then Super Tuesday.

Shh… don't let facts get in the way of the "Trump is a savvy politician who is winning the nomination" narrative that keeps getting discussed on here.

what is a little scary is the title of this thread was I'm sure pure snark

it's crazy how close to reality that prediction might be…Sweets might need to hook me up with canuck couch I can surf for 4-8 years if so

I went for a long run at lunch and thought about nothing but the election. I hate to say it, but I am starting to realize that we're in for President Rubio.

I don't know exactly what happens in NH for the GOP but I don't think it matters. Trump's star is in its decline and the GOP is going to let him flame himself out. Trump was all about being perceived as a winner and now that fantasy has been pricked, he's going to decline to middle of the pack and then he's absolutely done.

Meanwhile, the race is going to come down to Cruz vs Rubio, and there is not one person in the universe, apart from his wife, that can look at Ted Cruz's fat fucking face for so long without vomiting. Plus, Rubio's battles with Cruz will make him appear much more moderate, reasonable and attractive. While starting off slow-ish in Iowa and even possibly NH, he starts to really pick up as Trump fades. He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.

Meanwhile, Hillary and Bernie continue to pound each other out, and this drags into March/April. Hillary, suddenly realizing she's getting Baracked again, goes intensely negative. Bernie responds in turn, and by the time Hillary limps over the finish line, she's badly wounded. Even worse, the perception will be that she barely beat someone she should've trounced, while Rubio defeated the evil forces conspiring to kill the Republican Party. To middle-of-the-spectrum undecideds, Rubio seems energetic, poised, passionate, plus voting for the first Hispanic president gives everyone a warm feeling.

Going into the general, Rubio will have major wind at his back as the GOP breathes a sigh of relief that they didn't shit the bed completely with Trump or Cruz. Plus here's their chance to get the White House back! Republicans are fired up and ready to go. Meanwhile, Hillary has crushed the hopes and dreams of the progressives who were inspired by Bernie. She'll still have her defenders but she'll get frantic when Rubio consistently polls better than her, and her shrillness will thoroughly turn off those Democrats who would've sucked it up and voted for her. On Election Day, Rubio wins decidedly.

Relaxer wrote:. He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.

relaxer, you never cease with your awesomeness

plus voting for the first Hispanic president gives everyone a warm feeling.

I highly doubt the people who want to build a wall and kick out 12 million will go to the polls to vote for Rico suave

But you do have a really salient point on the independents…who are pretty much the largest political party

oh boy

We are really in trouble if isis beheads some blond cheerleader

Sidehatch wrote:

Relaxer wrote:. He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.

relaxer, you never cease with your awesomeness

plus voting for the first Hispanic president gives everyone a warm feeling.

I highly doubt the people who want to build a wall and kick out 12 million will go to the polls to vote for Rico suave

But you do have a really salient point on the independents…who are pretty much the largest political party

oh boy

We are really in trouble if isis beheads some blond cheerleader

Well thank you.
That said, I think the moderate Republicans and in-the-middles all blanched silently at Trump's immigration proposal. That was red-meat ignorance served up to idiots who think voting in the primary means "There I done voted and don't got to again for 4 years so is Trump presodent now?"

Now I would almost wonder if some ISIS action would actually benefit Hillary. My concern on her is that she's a secret hawk, and if there's an international incident, she's going to go Steel Thatcher on everyone and Rubio's voice is going to start quivering again and he'll be all

Relaxer wrote: He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.

Or as I or Nate Silver would call it "the person the party establishment rallies around."

I don't buy it… if the economy keeps creating jobs and we don't have any terrorist attacks inshallah I think Hillary wins..

I'm also not counting Trump out.. things can change quickly…

I can say Sanders has no chance of ever being elected and pulling Hillary leftwards is a recipe for disaster.. his lemming supporters seem obliviious to reality though

I wouldn't call Carson or Fiorina hot candidates.  Without evangelical nutjobs, Carson's numbers will plummet down to where Fiorina is hovering - 2%.  Both soon to be ex-candidates, thankfully.

Relaxer wrote:

ggw wrote:
Trump's kind of a sideshow.  I think the better story of the primary season is that Hillary Clinton is losing to a 71-year old Socialist in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

I agree that the Trump thing looks and smells like a sideshow, but the fact is that he's been leading the GOP primaries for months now and there is no indication that he's going down any time soon. This is going well beyond the Gingrich/Cain/Bachmann/Paul/Romney 2012 shitshow where every candidate had his/her turn at the top of the polls. This is Trump out there, totally winging it with no filter, calling everyone idiots, insulting anyone who asks him a slightly penetrating question, and just climbing higher and higher.

The three hottest GOP candidates, Trump, Carson, and Fiorina, have never held any political office yet they account for more than 50 percent of poll "votes". This is the shitshow to watch, no matter what chagrined Republicans say.

just got this depressing email from Hillary.. she keeps asking for money but I don't care.. I dont' think money decides elections at all…..it just goes to overpaid idiots (consultants) and pays for stupid ads.. if money had much impact Jeb Bush would be doing far better.. of course money helps… I don't know.. I hate to contribute money to Hillary at this point.. 



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If you've believed that Hillary Clinton is going to win this election because other people are going to step up and take care of it, this should be a very loud wake-up call.

There's no cavalry coming – it's just people like you who are going to decide whether or not to step up to elect the first woman president our country has ever had.

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jeffml wrote:
I wouldn't call Carson or Fiorina hot candidates.  Without evangelical nutjobs, Carson's numbers will plummet down to where Fiorina is hovering - 2%.  Both soon to be ex-candidates, thankfully.

Relaxer wrote:

ggw wrote:
Trump's kind of a sideshow.  I think the better story of the primary season is that Hillary Clinton is losing to a 71-year old Socialist in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

I agree that the Trump thing looks and smells like a sideshow, but the fact is that he's been leading the GOP primaries for months now and there is no indication that he's going down any time soon. This is going well beyond the Gingrich/Cain/Bachmann/Paul/Romney 2012 shitshow where every candidate had his/her turn at the top of the polls. This is Trump out there, totally winging it with no filter, calling everyone idiots, insulting anyone who asks him a slightly penetrating question, and just climbing higher and higher.

The three hottest GOP candidates, Trump, Carson, and Fiorina, have never held any political office yet they account for more than 50 percent of poll "votes". This is the shitshow to watch, no matter what chagrined Republicans say.

Dude, I made that post six months and 43 pages ago. A wee bit has changed since then, wouldn't you say?

come on cut Relaxer some slack he is our in house political pundit and they're supposed to be able to change what they say all the time without being called out on it so leave him be!

(actually I think Relaxer has been pretty spot on overall)

hutch wrote:
just got this depressing email from Hillary.. she keeps asking for money but I don't care.. I dont' think money decides elections at all…..it just goes to overpaid idiots (consultants) and pays for stupid ads.. if money had much impact Jeb Bush would be doing far better.. of course money helps… I don't know.. I hate to contribute money to Hillary at this point.. 

Maybe she should spend less on pizza (or maybe her staff has too damn many people).

Of course that number represents Christie's personal pizza budget.

http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-super-pac-releases-new-ad-that-misspells-the-w-1757129328

Ted Cruz Super PAC Releases New Ad That Misspells the Word "Country"

kosmo wrote:
http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-super-pac-releases-new-ad-that-misspells-the-w-1757129328

Ted Cruz Super PAC Releases New Ad That Misspells the Word "Country"

I can't be the only guy who was hoping for this:

Relaxer wrote:
Of course that number represents Christie's personal pizza budget.

I greatly believe that Christie campaign number is fudged. There's no way its that low. There's just no way.