Maybe we should just elect Trump president

hutch wrote:
OH and FL are in play always. not PA or MI

I think they would be in play with Trump.. its all personal opinion at this point…
I was mistakenly remembering PA as voting for Bush 2 at least one time, but after further review, you are correct, they have not voted for a GOP candidate since 88. So hypothetically, yes, if Trump makes MI and PA legitimately "in play", that would be changing the map.

That said (and back to your point that its just personal opinion/conjecture at this point), I really do not see him making a serious run at those states.

And again, the thing people really aren't talking about enough is the very real prospect that if Trump does get through the convention with the nomination that a GOP-establishment candidate files as a third-party candidate. A third party candidate taking even 5% nationally obliterates Trump's chance of winning any swing state.
keepin it classy in Texas
Robert Morrow the elected chair of the Republican Party in Travis County, Texas

couldn't find the image of the one where he calls Clinton an Angry Bull Dyke
with male pattern baldness, that he is so trying to hide . . . id be that mad, too.
walk,on,by wrote:
with male pattern baldness, that he is so trying to hide . . . id be that mad, too.

I was tempted to make a comment about that, thank you for saying what I was thinking

got to be closeted with his homosexualized commentary
Julian, wrote:
hutch wrote:
OH and FL are in play always. not PA or MI

I think they would be in play with Trump.. its all personal opinion at this point…
I was mistakenly remembering PA as voting for Bush 2 at least one time, but after further review, you are correct, they have not voted for a GOP candidate since 88. So hypothetically, yes, if Trump makes MI and PA legitimately "in play", that would be changing the map.

That said (and back to your point that its just personal opinion/conjecture at this point), I really do not see him making a serious run at those states.

And again, the thing people really aren't talking about enough is the very real prospect that if Trump does get through the convention with the nomination that a GOP-establishment candidate files as a third-party candidate. A third party candidate taking even 5% nationally obliterates Trump's chance of winning any swing state.


obviously if the GOP fields an anti-Trump candidate Hillary will be elected… I think we don't talk about that because its obvious…

its hard to see how the Republicans win at this point.. if they decide to go in against Trump as they are doing they will seriously weaken him/are weakening him for the fall even if they then decide to support him and nominate him… if they don't nominate him he will run 3rd party.. if the do nominate him but field an alternative they will lose….

the millions of people who voted for him were already angry…

hutch wrote:
its hard to see how the Republicans win at this point..

I know and it makes me happy to have them eat their hat with their obstruction on the supreme court nom…wait for the next president…Ha!

What I'm interested in is…how is this going to impact congressional elections?
I would say it would favor the dems…but will it be enough to switch the dominance in both halls
Hillary is very strong in supporting down-stream candidates and has a long record of it. Bernie has very little concept of it and isn't thinking along those lines at all. Which worried me when everyone was #feelingthebern but now I feel like things are looking Hillary's way, as long as she doesn't get indicted.

God, can you imagine the GOP Convention if Trump gets enough votes to be the nominee? I mean, it will be literally breathtaking.
Relaxer wrote:
I feel like things are looking Hillary's way, as long as she doesn't get indicted.

that does scare me and god knows they are trying as hard as they can to squeeze blood from that stone
Sidehatch wrote:
I would say it would favor the dems…but will it be enough to switch the dominance in both halls
Senate, probably. The House? No chance in hell.
per the twitter, the delusion is running high…. Romney is hoping to block trump at the convention and either him or ryan will be the brokered candiate…  okey dokey

another 242,000 jobs added


Hutch, do you remember was the 'price' of gas was when Newt pulled that stunt on the Gas Station on Columbia Pike 4 years ago

Wasn't it like $1.85 and was talking all this shit about how Obama was hurting the middle class with gas being so high

That gas station today…$1.67
I'm actually fascinated to see how Trump does in the next set of primaries. Fox News basically orchestrated a hit on him last night. Cruz and Rubio were setting each other up for one-liners half the night. That was simultaneously a shitshow and completely captivating all at once.
I'm so pissed I missed last night's debate. I'm totally out of the loop.
Its definitely taking a toll on Trump's numbers… I think on Super Tuesday he lost about 5% across the board….

If Trump wins MI, OH and FL I have to think its over although Cruz would probably hang on..I just can't see Cruz winning places like CA, NY, PA against Trump in a 1 on 1…

Too many debates….total waste of time…on both sides…
hutch wrote:
If Trump wins MI, OH and FL I have to think its over although Cruz would probably hang on..I just can't see Cruz winning places like CA, NY, PA against Trump in a 1 on 1…
I think the new strategy is for Kasich to stay in and try to take OH, then the other 2 stay in the entire way and get a contested convention. It's not about Trump not getting the most delegates, its about keeping him under 50% at this point.

Julian, wrote:
hutch wrote:
If Trump wins MI, OH and FL I have to think its over although Cruz would probably hang on..I just can't see Cruz winning places like CA, NY, PA against Trump in a 1 on 1…
I think the new strategy is for Kasich to stay in and try to take OH, then the other 2 stay in the entire way and get a contested convention. It's not about Trump not getting the most delegates, its about keeping him under 50% at this point.




yes there are strategies but if Trump beats Kasich in OH and beats Rubio in FL they will have to both concede.. at some point reality trumps (!) strategy….they may SAY that is their strategy today… but when the numbers come in its different..  How can Rubio make a case he can win if he can't win FL?.. and FL is winner take all so it will really make Trump look like he is closing in on the magic number…If you look at the poll numbers even in a place like Michigan Kasich is doing very poorly.. I think he's a goner…

I think the rest of the candidates and the establishment has until March 15..  that gives them about 10 days and one more debate… Trump might lose some of the caucuses but…can't remember the names but there are two southern states coming up and he will dominate there..

They may talk about a long strategy but that is what campaigns do to buy themselves time… and in this case.. to throw the kitchen sink at him…
hutch wrote:
yes there are strategies but if Trump beats Kasich in OH and beats Rubio in FL they will have to both concede.. at some point reality trumps (!) strategy….they may SAY that is their strategy today… but when the numbers come in its different..  How can Rubio make a case he can win if he can't win FL?.. and FL is winner take all so it will really make Trump look like he is closing in on the magic number…If you look at the poll numbers even in a place like Michigan Kasich is doing very poorly.. I think he's a goner…
I agree, if Trump wins the winner-take-all FL and OH delegates, any attempt to hold Trump to a simple plurality goes out the window.

In which case we get into the weird hypothetical of does the GOP establishment run a third-party candidate, knowing full well it concedes the election to Hillary simply to avoid the party moving to Trump's image.
didn't watch the deba(cle)te last night
but I've just found it funny how they keep talking about bringing the jobs back
I think trump said "if I were president, iphones would be manufactured here'

Not sure why this is such a hard concept, but the reason they are manufactured overseas is they can pay people very little and their labor rights are slim…so very cheap way to get things manufactured

If they built iPhones here…they would cost $2000

and the same thing with exporting 12million illegals (although they really only want to kick out the brown ones)
Who is going to do those jobs…and the cost to the public would be disastrous to our economy
farming/construction and many other industries would have to increase costs to a level that would just be a total disaster