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Maybe we should just elect Trump president

hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 16, 2018 at 08:54 PM UTC #
The owner has been running it into the ground since 2009…,incredibly overpriced stuff….CD Cellar is jam packed on weekends and it’s in Falls Church…but they don’t rip you off so people go there!

If he wants to do good business he should cut prices on used vinyl by 75%

hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 19, 2018 at 04:11 AM UTC #
Not liking signs of what looks to be happening in midterms
ggw
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 19, 2018 at 01:09 PM UTC #
Should Mueller pull a Comey and release his findings just before the election?
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 19, 2018 at 01:24 PM UTC #
ggw wrote:
Should Mueller pull a Comey and release his findings just before the election?

I like the way you think…but we know that any facts will have zero impact on 'team trump' voters

so likely will be a dud and fox news will focus on "hey look the Muller report has a dangling participle in the first paragraph, therefore the ALL the findings should be thrown out….Squirrel!"
sweetcell
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 19, 2018 at 10:07 PM UTC #
Unquotable-hatch wrote:
ggw wrote:
Should Mueller pull a Comey and release his findings just before the election?

I like the way you think…but we know that any facts will have zero impact on 'team trump' voters
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well we knew that.  trump nailed it like a porn star when he said "i could go out on fifth avenue and shoot someone in the face, and i wouldn't lose a vote".[/font]

[font=verdana]the mueller report, like comey's announcement, will affect undecideds & independents.  along with base turn-out, it's what wins elections.[/font]

Unquotable-hatch wrote:so likely will be a dud and fox news will focus on "hey look the Muller report has a dangling participle in the first paragraph, therefore the ALL the findings should be thrown out….Squirrel!"

this is one of the funnier things i've read on here recently ;D
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 22, 2018 at 12:47 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
hutch wrote:
Not liking signs of what looks to be happening in midterms


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/412445-trumps-approval-rating-jumps-higher-than-obamas-ahead-of-midterms

headline is grimmer than the facts in the body tho….
Overall, the poll found Democrats with a 9-point lead over Republicans in the battle for congressional control.
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 23, 2018 at 12:19 PM UTC #
i think the democrats approach is sort of not working as well as it should…
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 23, 2018 at 01:11 PM UTC #
hutch wrote:
i think the democrats approach is sort of not working as well as it should…

I wish I could tell what their approach is…but I'm feeling the urge to start drinking heavily
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 23, 2018 at 02:44 PM UTC #
Yes am with you on that drinking


Approach seems to be trump is evil and he lies…taking the bait on anything he says and the mandatory “we thought he could not go any lower…”

Why can’t democrats come up with something coherent on immigration and just stick to it?

ggw
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 23, 2018 at 07:11 PM UTC #
The approach the DNC selected was to focus on health care for the midterms.  Which hasn't really hit as strong a chord as hoped.

And isn't "Abolish ICE" the democrats' position on immigration?
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 23, 2018 at 08:08 PM UTC #
ggw wrote:


And isn't "Abolish ICE" the democrats' position on immigration?


You can’t be serious
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 24, 2018 at 02:37 AM UTC #
hutch wrote:
ggw wrote:
And isn't "Abolish ICE" the democrats' position on immigration?

You can’t be serious

I know, that is all I hear now…conservatives telling me what all liberals stand for
I don't remember that happening in the past? (it's the meme's!)

Used to be they just made fun of what you stood for, now they say you stand for something you don't
SMH
ggw
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 24, 2018 at 12:34 PM UTC #
I was just being a little snarky, but if the Democrats have a cohesive and coherent plan on immigration, they are doing a really shitty job communicating it.  And in the absence of such a plan, the platform gets co-opted by those who yell loudest.

"Earlier this week, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) said that the first order of business if Democrats retake Congress should be to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE). It's a position that's increasingly en vogue among liberals after Alexandria Cortez-Ocasio's shocking upset in a New York Democratic primary last month"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/07/24/democrats-ice-conundrum-isnt-going-away/
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 24, 2018 at 01:06 PM UTC #
And I agree with you.
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 24, 2018 at 01:56 PM UTC #
ggw wrote:
I was just being a little snarky, but if the Democrats have a cohesive and coherent plan on immigration, they are doing a really shitty job communicating it.  And in the absence of such a plan, the platform gets co-opted by those who yell loudest.

ok…snark noted :)  I just keep seeing responses about what my stance is when talking (well arguing) with tump-etts and frankly it become a big pet peeve of mine

Hutch said this years ago…the stance the dems have on immigration is a total loser

I don't have a good solution, but the fear of alienating the future Hispanic voting block is making it so they are suggesting plans like 'abolish ICE'
that will never get votes from the independents and middle America …and lot's of Hispanic US citizens

and is pushing those who voted trump in the past to want to vote again for that kind of leadership as it's easy to paint the dems with promoting anarchy when they say stuff like that (the irony is team trump is the one going for Anarchy, but they are doing a fantastic job as painting the dems with that moniker)
gavroche
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 24, 2018 at 03:03 PM UTC #
Unquotable-hatch wrote:
ggw wrote:
I was just being a little snarky, but if the Democrats have a cohesive and coherent plan on immigration, they are doing a really shitty job communicating it.  And in the absence of such a plan, the platform gets co-opted by those who yell loudest.

ok…snark noted :)  I just keep seeing responses about what my stance is when talking (well arguing) with tump-etts and frankly it become a big pet peeve of mine

Hutch said this years ago…the stance the dems have on immigration is a total loser

I don't have a good solution, but the fear of alienating the future Hispanic voting block is making it so they are suggesting plans like 'abolish ICE'
that will never get votes from the independents and middle America …and lot's of Hispanic US citizens

and is pushing those who voted trump in the past to want to vote again for that kind of leadership as it's easy to paint the dems with promoting anarchy when they say stuff like that (the irony is team trump is the one going for Anarchy, but they are doing a fantastic job as painting the dems with that moniker)


Democratic leadership is not pushing abolish Ice.  Democratic leadership wanted Crowley to beat Ocasio-Cortez. 

Abolish ICE gained traction with progressives because it is an easy slogan to highlight lots of the problems with our immigration enforcement. The Dems don't have a plan because plans are complicated and hard to explain. 
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president October 24, 2018 at 03:57 PM UTC #
gavroche wrote:
Democratic leadership is not pushing abolish Ice.  Democratic leadership wanted Crowley to beat Ocasio-Cortez. 
Abolish ICE gained traction with progressives because it is an easy slogan to highlight lots of the problems with our immigration enforcement. The Dems don't have a plan because plans are complicated and hard to explain.

Great point…hard to sum it up in a bumper sticker slogan
We do have to dumb it down messaging wise, but we could leverage the web to get the details on the plan, but a great slogan is critical

I think Medicare for all is a winner…kinda of feel like they started to run with that, but faded

yeah, the right has pretty much tried to use Ocasio-Cortez as a scare tactic…"See, this is what ALL Dems want, if you don't vote for us her platform WILL be the dem platfom"…which as you said is far from the truth
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