Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 03:19 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
There's a typo on that. Under Pros for Hillary it doesn't say "Is the most qualified candidate in the history of American politics" and "An ability to get her agenda passed." And for some reason under Cons, it lists "Hillary." Very shoddy meme-making.
so when slobbering over Hillary's phallus, do you pay attention to the balls?
walk,on,by
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 03:25 PM UTC
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as strong as Hillary did in the primary, and as strong as trump did in the primary, I feel a battle with them vs each other for the prize, will be good. I cant tell who will win, at this point. the hate for the other, is strong from both fronts.
jrpa
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 03:32 PM UTC
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walk,on,by wrote:
as strong as Hillary did in the primary, and as strong as trump did in the primary, I feel a battle with them vs each other for the prize, will be good. I cant tell who will win, at this point. the hate for the other, is strong from both fronts.
Trump has a double-digit negative favorability rating with Independents and a strong chance that the GOP would mount a conservative third party candidate against him. I think Hillary clears 400 electoral votes.
walk,on,by
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 03:35 PM UTC
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do you think if the republicans gave in and let trump battle hillster, trump would win? or is wise that the pubs shoot for someone else?
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 03:36 PM UTC
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man I would have a tough time in this primary
in this one I'd go for Clinton
jrpa
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 03:40 PM UTC
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walk,on,by wrote:
do you think if the republicans gave in and let trump battle hillster, trump would win? or is wise that the pubs shoot for someone else?
No, I think he would lose either way.
These sort of favorability ratings are virtually impossible to overcome in the General Election. You cannot lose Democrats by 75% and Independents by 20% (and stoke high turn out among Latinos and African-Americans with his jingoistic, racist rhetoric) and hope to win. There simply aren't enough Republicans out there.
If a more traditional GOP candidate goes third-party, that's when we get into historical electoral numbers for Hillary.
bob72
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 04:26 PM UTC
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so I had a disagreement with someone in my office regarding people's dislike of Hillary. I think it's because she's a Clit on, and he thinks it's because she's a woman.
What's the general population's view on this?
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 04:30 PM UTC
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bob72 wrote:
so I had a disagreement with someone in my office regarding people's dislike of Hillary. I think it's because she's a Clit on, and he thinks it's because she's a woman.
What's the general population's view on this?
Well if you are a registered republican…that's pretty much the argument
not on actual experience or platforms, the mantra is 'we will and always will hate Hillary"
never really a discussion of why
Which is why it is so nice that it's pretty much a lock she'll be the next one at 1600 Penn
sweetcell
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 04:48 PM UTC
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bob72 wrote:
so I had a disagreement with someone in my office regarding people's dislike of Hillary. I think it's because she's a Clit on, and he thinks it's because she's a woman.
What's the general population's view on this?
i believe that the general population's view is that hillary is just another establishment politician with a mixed to positive record. some of these people like her, some dislike her. if you believe the polls, more people like her than don't.
those who hate hate hate hillary are the right-wingnuts and they'll pick any one of 10 reasons to hate her. she's a woman, she's a clinton, she's a liberal… the actual reason doesn't matter. hate for her is right up there with obama: these two could cure cancer and create a 20 million high-paying jobs and this bunch of mouth-breathers will still hate them. the problem is that this bunch is disproportionately vocal and, more often than not, in positions of authority within the GOP.
Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 04:56 PM UTC
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My wife hates Hillary (and supports Bernie) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
My mom hates Hillary (and supports Cruz) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
It's always great when your spouse and their mother-in-law see eye to eye on something.
Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 04:59 PM UTC
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Sidehatch wrote:
man I would have a tough time in this primary
in this one I'd go for Clinton
I preferred that joke when it was done with George Clinton and COLONEL Sanders, because I have no idea who the second guy pictured is.
vansmack
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 05:01 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:Trump has a double-digit negative favorability rating with Independents and a strong chance that the GOP would mount a conservative third party candidate against him. I think Hillary clears 400 electoral votes.
This is pretty close. I think we're looking at Bush v Dukakis numbers, but not quite Reagan v Mondale. I don't rule out Trump doing something completely insane and making this Mondalesque however….
vansmack
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 05:18 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
My wife hates Hillary (and supports Bernie) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
My mom hates Hillary (and supports Cruz) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
What states do they live in? Because that's all that matters…
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 06:10 PM UTC
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how people feel today could well change in a few months…
for example those hypothetical matchup numbes are worthless..
I think if the economy keeps growing and adding jobs and we don't suffer any more terrorist attacks, come the fall, its going to be hard to see people voting Republican for the presidency….. Lets think..what if the economy adds 200,000 jobs on average for the next 8 months.. on top of the jobs already added..
I differ from the concensus in that I think Trump could be a far bigger threat to Hillary than Cruz or Rubio… I could see him doing well in MI, OH, PA.. certainly taking NH.. he makes the map bigger for the Repubicans.. otherwise they are stuck with the same crummy game of absolutely having to win OH etc…
jrpa
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 06:20 PM UTC
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What states do you see him adding to in play for the GOP? NH is always a swing state as-is.
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 06:25 PM UTC
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PA, MI.. .. he would make it really hard on the democrats to take OH or FL….
Lets think about that: how does Hillary get elected without OH and FL?
I'd have to do some legwork on NY… I'm skeptical about Trump's chances there..
this is all assuming the current GOP game of comparing him to the antichrist ends fairly soon.. it will take a toll..it is taking a toll.. obviously if your own party is saying you are the antichrist/Hitler its going to be hard to win anything…..
jrpa
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 06:35 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
PA, MI.. .. he would make it really hard on the democrats to take OH or FL….
I don't think MI is in play, personally.
I would argue PA, OH, and FL are all "in-play" in any election. I mean, those are the general big swing states that decide every election of my lifetime.
jrpa
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
March 03, 2016 at 06:38 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Lets think about that: how does Hillary get elected without OH and FL?
Big Ten country (minus IN and OH) + Virginia + Nevada, hypothetically.