DeathFromAbove1979
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 07:36 PM UTC
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Bobby's tone on this is just…. so insane. It's also sad how many "articles" are written for Fox News with THIS exact, sarcastic tone. I GET that they are biased, but geez…
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/13/bobby-jindal-trump-s-pick-for-education-secretary-wants-everyone-to-get-great-education-dems-hate-her-for-it.html
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 07:49 PM UTC
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Jindal is such a loser…but many of his points are fair I think…
my main issue with this devos woman is she knows nothing or cares nothing about public education so how can she be secretary of education? but at the same time i think we have to look seriously at vouchers, school choice.. all of it.. we cannot ask people to send their kids to failing schools because "hey they will fail even more without your kids!"… most people cannot just move and if they live in an area with bad schools what are they supposed to do??? I think we should give them the option of vouchers and if they feel they can do better outside the public school system that should be up to them… why should public schools have a monopoly on the money if they suck decade after decade?
i understand the argument that if you take money out of the public school system then it will suck even more…i get it.. but surely we can explore some ways of approaching this issue rather than insisting people send their children to crap schools??
i have not studied the dc public education but it seems to me things got a lot better after all the charter schools popped up?
like i said.. i don't know that much about the issue.. but on principle i feel every American should be entitled to the money corresponding to their child's cost of public education and if they can find a better way with that money they should have options…. maybe this should only be the case for failing schools?
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 07:51 PM UTC
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having said that my two kids go to school in Arlington.. public school.. and i cannot say enough good things about our experience… but Arlington is a very very expensive county to live in…so not really what I'm concerned with
Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 07:53 PM UTC
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At least we can rest assured that there won't be any grizzlies in the classroom. Unless Bearman decides to become a teacher. Even then, Devos might not allow that.
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 07:56 PM UTC
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that brings up another point I have thought about..
Men should only be allowed in schools after EXTREME VETTING and background checks and all kinds of stuff.. there are just too many men that go into teaching because they like little boys and girls… its disgusting all the stories one reads…
Relaxer
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 08:03 PM UTC
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I have been extremely happy with the D.C. public elementary school that my kids went to. My older one now goes to a charter school downtown and is thriving. There's been a fair amount of attrition though because this charter school is extremely difficult. Ever since he started there (5th grade) he's had at least 2 hours of homework every night.
Even my young son has had at least an hour of homework a night ever since 1st grade.
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 08:06 PM UTC
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Homework is for total LOSERS. I'm glad schools are eliminating it all across the country…
walkie,talkie
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 07, 2017 at 10:47 PM UTC
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wow, we have our own fake Donald trump. I think they are good, if done correctly.
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 12:29 AM UTC
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excontradiction wrote:
I thought the plan was to pull money from public education funding and provide vouchers to rich people to offset the cost of private / charter schools.
that 100% is the plan (although they'd also like it to go for Religious schools…well, not muslim ones)
the conservatives hate the unions and the teacher's unions are strong…so more to hate
I don't think charter schools are that bad of an idea and sometime can produce good results
but I do think this whole "starve the beast" when it's the children's future is so sad.
Also …it's a little racist too, they don't want to pay for poor black and brown kids to get an education
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 12:54 AM UTC
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Donald wrote:
my two kids go to school in Arlington.. public school.. … but Arlington is a very very expensive county to live in
Unfortunately that is the rub with public education and 'states rights'
it makes sure the public schools were the wealthy are are freakin' awesome
and the ones where the poor people are… suck
I didn't know until a few weeks ago…there was no department of Education until 1980!
I think part of it was, we need to have a unified approach to education, so ALL kids get a good education
but the conservatives fight that tooth and nail…again, because the peoples property tax should go to the local schools and not the poor kids on the other side of the tracks
I say this as a parent of two in Arlington schools…we have awesome public schools
that has very little to do to the Federal Dept of Education
if anything Federal rules restrict Arlington from being even better at times
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 01:21 AM UTC
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The law is the law…there is no right to an ewual education….now that we get some more strict constructionists on the court fuggedaboutit
Note this wad typed from an undisclosed remote lication…secured
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 02:14 AM UTC
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Look .. if you don't like Devos support our plan to eliminate the Department of Education..it is not that complicated people…
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 01:14 PM UTC
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Yikes…
If they don?t endorse, believe me, if you?re ever in this position, it?s never quite the same, O.K.,? Mr. Trump said. ?You can talk, but it never means the same.?
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 01:34 PM UTC
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Did you see the way we shut down Pocahontas?
Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 01:53 PM UTC
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AmericanCarnage wrote:
Donald wrote:
my two kids go to school in Arlington.. public school.. … but Arlington is a very very expensive county to live in
Unfortunately that is the rub with public education and 'states rights'
it makes sure the public schools were the wealthy are are freakin' awesome
and the ones where the poor people are… suck
I didn't know until a few weeks ago…there was no department of Education until 1980!
I think part of it was, we need to have a unified approach to education, so ALL kids get a good education
but the conservatives fight that tooth and nail…again, because the peoples property tax should go to the local schools and not the poor kids on the other side of the tracks
I say this as a parent of two in Arlington schools…we have awesome public schools
that has very little to do to the Federal Dept of Education
if anything Federal rules restrict Arlington from being even better at times
Well if the people in Oklahoma or Mississippi want shitty schools, let them have them.
Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 02:17 PM UTC
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Some good food for thought.
http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-immigration-trump-2017-2Democrats are lost on immigration-and they'd better rethink their ideas to beat Trump
DeathFromAbove1979
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
February 08, 2017 at 02:36 PM UTC
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walkie,talkie wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tapper-conway-have-heated-exchanges-in-tense-interview/ar-AAmI0pR?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp
it can never be good, when the news becomes the news.
When Conway was asked why Trump hasn't said a thing about Quebec City she responds "He doesn't need to respond and tweet about everything"…