Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 20, 2018 at 07:43 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Well he may not have had healthcare
Obamacare did not fix all issues
Like there are different levels of coverage depending on what you pay for
God you really are clueless
Well you know next to nil about beer and marathon running.
sweetcell
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 20, 2018 at 08:40 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Do people still incur those kinds of weekly charges even with Obamacare in place? I'm legitimately curious from my DC bubble.
yup, they can still happen. obamacare did not fix the criminally high prices that patients are charged in this country (yes, it curbed some excesses… but not nearly enough). luckily the ACA got rid of lifetime limits, so insurance companies can't say "sorry, you've hit your $100k max, the rest of the bill is up to you".
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 20, 2018 at 08:41 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Well you know next to nil about beer and marathon running.

Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 20, 2018 at 08:56 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Space wrote:
Do people still incur those kinds of weekly charges even with Obamacare in place? I'm legitimately curious from my DC bubble.
yup, they can still happen. obamacare did not fix the criminally high prices that patients are charged in this country (yes, it curbed some excesses… but not nearly enough). luckily the ACA got rid of lifetime limits, so insurance companies can't say "sorry, you've hit your $100k max, the rest of the bill is up to you".
Apparently, he had insurance, Peter Buck, and $125K from the GoFundMe account. I guess my point is…if his medical bills only used 75K from the GoFundMe, does he get to pocket 50K?
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8474345/minus-5-scott-mccaughey-recovery-interviewAnd my initial point…if people donate a billion dollars to build the wall through GoFundMe and they don't use the money….who gets to keep the money?
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 21, 2018 at 06:46 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
$12,475,646 of $1.0B goal
Raised by 204,669 people in 4 days
man…just imagine 200k people donating something that would actually help America
I kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is….but this is just SAD and xenophobic
so should we take down the statue of liberty?
do you think France would take it back?
jrpa
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 21, 2018 at 06:48 PM UTC
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Millefleur wrote:
so should we take down the statue of liberty?
Obviously a trojan horse for all the Muslims to sneak in.
vansmack
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 21, 2018 at 07:05 PM UTC
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Millefleur wrote:
[ kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is….
Let's not lose perspective. Four days in and .3% of the people who voted for Trump have raised 1.2% of the money needed to fund only 4% of Trumps wall.
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 21, 2018 at 07:47 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
Millefleur wrote:
[ kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is….
Let's not lose perspective. Four days in and .3% of the people who voted for Trump have raised 1.2% of the money needed to fund only 4% of Trumps wall.
there you go using math again…Fact's are for losers!
in addition the 5B number is a low low ball estimate
the original estimates were 20B
And you know how gov't spends money wastefully (i.e. space) so probably double that
so 12 mill raised of 40B…drop in the ocean
not including ongoing costs, which are in the 100s of millions a year
vansmack
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 21, 2018 at 10:19 PM UTC
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Millefleur wrote:
vansmack wrote:
Millefleur wrote:
[ kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is….
Let's not lose perspective. Four days in and .3% of the people who voted for Trump have raised 1.2% of the money needed to fund only 4% of Trumps wall.
in addition the 5B number is a low low ball estimate
the original estimates were 20B
And you know how gov't spends money wastefully (i.e. space) so probably double that
so 12 mill raised of 40B…drop in the ocean
not including ongoing costs, which are in the 100s of millions a year
I used $25B because that was the "conservative" estimate Fox News has been using, but yes, I agree, it's much more.
204,669 / 62,984,828 = .3%
$12,475,646 of $1B = 1.2%
$1B of $25b = 4%
gavroche
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 23, 2018 at 05:37 AM UTC
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Millefleur wrote:
Space wrote:
Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
$12,475,646 of $1.0B goal
Raised by 204,669 people in 4 days
man…just imagine 200k people donating something that would actually help America
I kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is….but this is just SAD and xenophobic
so should we take down the statue of liberty?
do you think France would take it back?
I don't believe many of these people would have hit the donate button if they actually believed it would come close to their goal and thus require them to actually pay.
It's just a no cost way to back Trump for them.
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
December 23, 2018 at 01:02 PM UTC
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gavroche wrote:
It's just a no cost way to back Trump for them.
I think the most karmic scenario would be if hackers somehow got into that GoFundMe and drained people's bank accounts and all the money went to some Russian crime syndicate
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 02, 2019 at 09:42 PM UTC
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I do think we can thank Trump for this…

totally unrelated…but what a great pic

and in another totally unrelated photo
presidential flip flops
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 03, 2019 at 08:02 PM UTC
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this should make team trump very anxious

and this guys new job…

Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 03, 2019 at 09:58 PM UTC
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Some classic quotes all in 1 90+ minute Cabinet meeting
"When they say I'm not popular in Europe, I shouldn't be popular in Europe."
"I don't care about Europe."
"I could be the most popular person in Europe. I could be – I could run for any office if I wanted to, but I don't want to."
"I think I would've been a good general, but who knows."
"Nicest machine guns I've ever seen."
"I could have had a lot easier presidency by doing nothing." (we can only dream)
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 04, 2019 at 03:19 PM UTC
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@realDonaldTrump 1.4.19
How do you impeach a president who has won perhaps the greatest election of all time, done nothing wrong (no Collusion with Russia, it was the Dems that Colluded), had the most successful first two years of any president, and is the most popular Republican in party history 93%?
the last part is true (only truth in this twat) and still very scary with all we know…
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 04, 2019 at 03:40 PM UTC
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Why is it so hard for him and a Republicans to realize they also represent people that don’t vote for or support them?!?
Seems so obvious
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 04, 2019 at 07:52 PM UTC
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Unfortunately I find Trump effective in this press conference….it’s almost accidental but effective….the press on the other hand
Space Freely
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 04, 2019 at 08:23 PM UTC
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Anybody see the Shutdown as a hail mary by Trump and McConnell to have the agencies operating normally when Mueller's report is released in February and the arrests start flying?
Sidehatch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 04, 2019 at 08:47 PM UTC
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to have the agencies operating normally when Mueller's report is released in February and the arrests start flying?
you lost me…please explain
hutch
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Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president
January 05, 2019 at 06:45 PM UTC
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He must be at grocery store