Rogue Riderhood
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 09:52 PM UTC
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Hey, no need to insult my intelligence.
You don't know me.
People can have different opinions.
And you seem to have skipped the part of the many replies I made in this thread where I said that I actually don't think guns should be banned, but we definitely have a gun problem in this country.
sweetcell
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 09:55 PM UTC
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the argument that "if you ban guns, only criminals will have them" is asinine. if you follow that logic, there is no point in making anything illegal. why make murder illegal? only criminals will murder! why making speeding illegal? only speeders will speed!
newsflash: the reason why you make something illegal is to stop most from doing it, and to have a framework to punish those who don't. just because it won't be 100% effective isn't a reason to not do it.
and to those idiots who claim "but we'll be less safe without our guns" - WAY more people are killed by gun accidents every year than are saved from home invasions (a complete bogeyman) or other instances where a gun was "needed for defense".
gun nuts need to admit something: they like guns because it makes them feel powerful. which is fine, in abstract; but the toll guns extract on society makes this bit of machoism irresponsible and selfish.
James Ford
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 09:55 PM UTC
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Well, actually you did say ban all guns.
Rogue wrote:
I say ban all guns.
sweetcell
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 09:57 PM UTC
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RatBastard wrote:
I was pointing out that 'banning' something does not make that thing go away. If you are not intelligent enough to recognize that fact then there really is no point having this discussion any further. Enjoy your rose colored glasses. Next!
actually, RB, there is no point in discussing intelligently with you. if something isn't 100% effective there no point in doing it? murders still happen, so we should just make it legal since it's going to happen anyways? brilliant.
Rogue Riderhood
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 10:00 PM UTC
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^ this was skipped by some of you…
James Ford
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 10:57 PM UTC
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This (bold)is a very compelling argument for choosing not to own a handgun. But a very weak argument for banning that choice.
sweetcell wrote:
the argument that "if you ban guns, only criminals will have them" is asinine. if you follow that logic, there is no point in making anything illegal. why make murder illegal? only criminals will murder! why making speeding illegal? only speeders will speed!
newsflash: the reason why you make something illegal is to stop most from doing it, and to have a framework to punish those who don't. just because it won't be 100% effective isn't a reason to not do it.
and to those idiots who claim "but we'll be less safe without our guns" - WAY more people are killed by gun accidents every year than are saved from home invasions (a complete bogeyman) or other instances where a gun was "needed for defense".
gun nuts need to admit something: they like guns because it makes them feel powerful. which is fine, in abstract; but the toll guns extract on society makes this bit of machoism irresponsible and selfish.
James Ford
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 11:06 PM UTC
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When I do that, I believe people call it "trolling".
Rogue wrote:
James wrote:
Well, actually you did say ban all guns.
Rogue wrote:
I say ban all guns.
it was a joke.
Something to get the gun nuts going.
Rogue Riderhood
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC
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Some people are just uptight.
James Ford
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 11:51 PM UTC
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Yeah, like the Islam Apologists on here who get bent out of shape when I joke that Muslims should be banned from America. ;D
Rogue wrote:
Some people are just uptight.
hutch
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 24, 2014 at 11:52 PM UTC
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obviously all guns save for law enforcement should be banned…
we know its worked fine in plenty of countries
but hey if we want to keep hitting our heads against the wall…
honestly i'm just tired of the issue…but its just something we'll have to deal with forever… anti-gun Americans aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is and pro-gun Americans are… that's just what it comes down to in the end.
James Ford
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 25, 2014 at 12:04 AM UTC
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Like I'm sure a 73 year old woman who lives alone in a trailer park with her precious metals under her bed next to a trailer full of methheads would own a gun because she desires to feel powerful and macho.
sweetcell wrote:
the argument that "if you ban guns, only criminals will have them" is asinine. if you follow that logic, there is no point in making anything illegal. why make murder illegal? only criminals will murder! why making speeding illegal? only speeders will speed!
newsflash: the reason why you make something illegal is to stop most from doing it, and to have a framework to punish those who don't. just because it won't be 100% effective isn't a reason to not do it.
and to those idiots who claim "but we'll be less safe without our guns" - WAY more people are killed by gun accidents every year than are saved from home invasions (a complete bogeyman) or other instances where a gun was "needed for defense".
gun nuts need to admit something: they like guns because it makes them feel powerful. which is fine, in abstract; but the toll guns extract on society makes this bit of machoism irresponsible and selfish.
James Ford
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 25, 2014 at 12:37 AM UTC
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Anybody else have a kid at home that takes dumps so huge that they clog the toilet?
Ah, the joys of parenthood.
RatBastard
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 25, 2014 at 03:12 AM UTC
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REALLY? He got kicked out for THAT? Wow what is this country coming to? Oh wait a minute, never mind.
http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/11756829/ted-bishop-removed-pga-america-president
RatBastard
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 25, 2014 at 03:29 AM UTC
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stevewizzle wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
RatBastard wrote:
I was pointing out that 'banning' something does not make that thing go away. If you are not intelligent enough to recognize that fact then there really is no point having this discussion any further. Enjoy your rose colored glasses. Next!
actually, RB, there is no point in discussing intelligently with you. if something isn't 100% effective there no point in doing it? murders still happen, so we should just make it legal since it's going to happen anyways? brilliant.
if we ban RB from the forum, we certainly wouldn't get rid of ALL the stupid posts, but it certainly would help.
But you surely would get rid of 99% of the well thought out and reasoned ones.
RatBastard
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Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
October 25, 2014 at 03:31 AM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
gun nuts need to admit something: they like guns because it makes them feel powerful. which is fine, in abstract; but the toll guns extract on society makes this bit of machoism irresponsible and selfish.
What exactly is a gun nut and what makes you think that you know why they like guns?