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hutch wrote:
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"… is this the case?

There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'…it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Frank wrote:

hutch wrote:
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"… is this the case?

There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'…it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?

beetsnotbeats wrote:

Frank wrote:

hutch wrote:
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"… is this the case?

There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'…it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?

That is what I'm asking.. have blacks and/or Africacan Americans decided they want to be referred to as blacks? Anybody know? What does everyone here use?

Frank wrote:
There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

aren't most black english people of african-american descent (mostly carribean)?

EDIT:  apparently african-american only refers to the USA portion of America, learn something new every day.

hutch wrote:

beetsnotbeats wrote:

Frank wrote:

hutch wrote:
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"… is this the case?

There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'…it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?

That is what I'm asking.. have blacks and/or Africacan Americans decided they want to be referred to as blacks? Anybody know? What does everyone here use?

I think they have …..

This came up in conversation at my workplace recently. It was during a lunch celebrating 'Black History Month' (not African American History Month BTW) The general consencious amongst the black staff was "black" is just fine. African American was seen to be a little silly and overly-pc.

Frank wrote:

hutch wrote:

beetsnotbeats wrote:

Frank wrote:

hutch wrote:
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"… is this the case?

There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'…it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?

That is what I'm asking.. have blacks and/or Africacan Americans decided they want to be referred to as blacks? Anybody know? What does everyone here use?

I think they have …..

This came up in conversation at my workplace recently. It was during a lunch celebrating 'Black History Month' (not African American History Month BTW) The general consencious amongst the black staff was "black" is just fine. African American was seen to be a little silly and overly-pc.

hmmm..yes that is the sense I'm getting… very strange as using "black" was not pc for a long time…

hispanics I think may also be shifting… the term hispanic is of course retarded as it really means from Spain/Portugal.. anyways I am betting preferred term will one day be Latino which is what it should always have been and was slated to be originally until some bureaucrat in the 1970s went with hispanic for government purposes..

latino comes from the word "latin" so it still applies to Spain/Portugal… and worse yet, it includes france, italy, romania, etc.  so latino is even "more wrong" than hispanic.

I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity … Progressive!

sweetcell wrote:
latino comes from the word "latin" so it still applies to Spain/Portugal… and worse yet, it includes france, italy, romania, etc.  so latino is even "more wrong" than hispanic.

nonesense… the reason LATINO works is because people from Latin America are called "LATINOAMERICANOS"… since most hispanics oh say 99% are from Latin America the term Latino is much better than hispanic which really refers to the hispanic peninsula…

an overwhelming percentage of hispanics have zero connection to Spain and Portugal other than linguistic

you can be a Latin American whose family is from originally from poland,, lithuania and italy and yet in the US you are termed a "hispanic"

It is totally retarded. Latino makes way more sense.

slappy wrote:
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity … Progressive!

that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

Why make any kind of racial reference at all?

hutch wrote:

slappy wrote:
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity … Progressive!

that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

James wrote:
Why make any kind of racial reference at all?

hutch wrote:

slappy wrote:
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity … Progressive!

that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

…or gender reference for that matter eh?

We can all be 'herms'

::)

Why let the PC 'theys' dictate what one must call any group, providing it's all said with respect? Honestly, I completely detest the whole PC mentality. It's nothing but censorship and brainwashing.

Maybe if you go back far enough in my lineage, you will probably find a few strains from the Caucasus area, but I'm not aware of it. Yet, I must check off (no pun intended) Caucasian when I fill out forms. Big effing deal! I don't care at all. There was a reason for the origin of the word for my category and it's nothing negative. In fact, when speaking of myself, I just say that I'm a European Mutt who happens to also be American. It so easily covers all of the many different European drops of blood that I'm aware of in my lineage. Proud of every single drop and even wish that I knew of more.

Personally, I don't get hung up on any of the different names providing that they are used respectfully. In my eyes, anyone who gets bent out of shape with distinct names like that is, well, just bent.

hutch wrote:

slappy wrote:
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity … Progressive!

that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

No.
'They' actually now prefer Coons. Give it try, you'll love the response.

slappy wrote:

hutch wrote:

slappy wrote:
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity … Progressive!

that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

No.
'They' actually now prefer Coons. Give it try, you'll love the response.

what an idiotic answer..good lord..

apparently one can't even ask…..


in any case, I'm seeing the term blacks used more and more.. and african americans less and less.. sorry if that reality bothers people.

slappy wrote:

hutch wrote:

slappy wrote:
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity … Progressive!

that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

No.
'They' actually now prefer Coons. Give it try, you'll love the response.

good lord  :o

If you're going to throw down snarky comments like 'nice verbiage' it would help if you actually read the comment.
I answered it in the first three sentences.
Just like all other races, the majority of Black people don't care.

Seriously how many of you have actually come across more than one person who objected to being called 'black'? (That actually was black.)

What's more ignorant is the assumption that the collective race is lumped together in one thought and desire.

My kids go to a very racially diverse school.  They don't give a fuck about any of this stuff.  It's awesome to hear them talk about their classmates.  I'll be like "which kid are you talking about?"  And then we go on and on as they try to tell me which kid in their class they are talking about, who I know I've seen but whose name I can't remember.  "Is his skin darker or lighter than so an so, is her hair straight hair, or really curly hair" .  On and on.

Little kids could care less about any of it.  It sucks that grownups are such a bunch of assholes. 

This is just what came to my mind reading this.

slappy wrote:
If you're going to throw down snarky comments like 'nice verbiage' it would help if you actually read the comment.
I answered it in the first three sentences.
Just like all other races, the majority of Black people don't care.

Seriously how many of you have actually come across more than one person who objected to being called 'black'? (That actually was black.)

What's more ignorant is the assumption that the collective race is lumped together in one thought and desire.

I don't think so Slappy.. As a race African Americans all agreed they did not want to be called "niggers." That is a fact.

There is nothing wrong with talking about race and I resent any such implication or the implication I'm an asshole for caring about how African Americans would like to be referred to. Give me a fucking break dude.

For example, I'm a "hispanic" but can't stand the term and can't wait until people use Latino. Sorry if that is a problem for you but I am entitled to my opinion. And yes, little kiddies who don't know much about history can afford to call themselves whatever they want… when you've walked around the block and studied about slavery and discriminatio and racism you might not feel that way.

hutch wrote:

I don't think so Slappy.. As a race African Americans all agreed they did not want to be called "niggers." That is a fact.

There is nothing wrong with talking about race and I resent any such implication or the implication I'm an asshole for caring about how African Americans would like to be referred to. Give me a fucking break dude.

Ok, let's slow down. You are absolutely correct there is nothing wrong with talking about race.
I didn't intend to imply you're an asshole. It is difficult these days to decipher snark or being sarcastic from the serious.

It is NOT a fact that African Americans all agreed they did not want to be called 'niggers'. Just like all white folks didn't agree to not be called a 'cracker', 'honky', 'whitey', or 'Nazi'. There are segments of all populations that admire different labels.

I would say the best way to find out what a person wants to be called is ask them. I've found making friends with all different sorts of people that you learn these things best by engaging and learn.

After becoming friends with a few Brazilians, I know better than to assume everyone from South America is 'Hispanic'. Even in Mexico I would avoid 'Hispanic' after hanging out with folks of Mayan descent.