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i like people who are all, "i'm canceling"  "screw netflix, i'm out."  "we'll show them, we'll all cancel our accounts."

uhh, huhh.  sure they will.  gas could be $10 a gallon . . . and people will buy it.  cigarettes could be $20 a  pack . . . and people will smoke them.  netflix could be $____ a month . . . and people will still watch.  they have no choice . . . people are all talk and no action.  just look at how long our government has gotten away/is getting away with what they do for so long.
walkies: i don't think so.  netflix is easily substitutable and easy to drop out of.  if they had cranked up fees over a period of time i would agree with you.  but they aren't slowly increase the fire under the pot, the 60% increase = dropping their customers into boiling water.
Well the part that is insane is they put in no price break to bundle packages. I mean who doesnt offer some sorta discount to combine packages.

With that being said - Im rather happy. Since I wasnt a huge fan of their streaming, Im back to the 3 out at time for $15.99. Not bad. Im sure I was paying that price more than a few years back. Ill be happy to pay that again.
god hit me upside the head for saying this . . . but i totally called this to my partner once we got heavy into netflix streaming.  it was, and still is , awesome and a cool way to watch movies.  i just wish the selection on the streaming was better than "straight to dvd" quaility film and horrible selection of tv series.  but i don't have cable, so shut up walkonby . . . you get what you get and you like it.  i told my partner, that they should have seperate accounts for people (like older people and curmudgeons) who don't stream to tv or would never ever watch a movie on a computer screen, and one for those who love it and need it.  raise the prices, hopefully use that money to finally offer a better selection in the streaming.  i will like that and i will pay for that.  but what do i know . . . i like widespread panic, and i don't mind paying ticket fees because i like ticket selling companies.
I'll cancel August 31 for sure (and this will be the second time I've cancelled Netflix).  There are plenty of options that are cheaper than $16 a month to get 99% of everything that's out.

My trouble with Netflix is that I need a mixed solution simply because Netflix Streaming doesn't have a large enough selection to meet my needs.  But $16 is well more than I am willing to pay, and they sure as hell shouldn't have justified the price raise as a bonus for the consumer like they did.  If the studios are at fault, take them to task, but don't justify the increase as a solution for the consumer when you've just raised my rate 66% and given me nothing additional in return.

Right now I'm thinking Amazon Instant plus Red Box.  We'll see what I can get for that…
Well the thing is - in NYC we dont have that many options. SF had some other great alternatives for rentals (green-cine comes to mind) although even they didnt have a big enough selection. I tend to veer towards foreign/indie that barely get released in the US but netflix has always had the most extensive library. Mind you, most of this is not available on streaming, but its fine. Being able to watch the film is whats impt. We dont have Redbox here nor most the other options. I tried out BB for awhile as there was one not far from me, but BB has all but shut down - so netflix it is.

Ive been a customer since they launched and for the rental side of it only, their price hasnt skyrocketed that much. Its fluctuated at best but as Ive been such a long time customer - they often times will work out deals with me if I complain enough. I might miss netflix on my droid while doing some late night show traveling, but other than that, its fine. Im sure I can always use amazon or find another alternative.

Besides maybe SF is cheaper, but going to see a movie out here is already up to $11 or $12 (and sometimes much more than that). This is a way better deal!
Nailed it.  The difference for me is that I have set top boxes that do Amazon Instant….

Netflix was too cheap before, but now it's just wrong

"I'm going to think long and hard about canceling my disc services, or at least dropping back to the twice-monthly DVD plan. But, I'd really like for Netflix to take a cue from Redbox (and, indeed, from its original pricing scheme) and let me pay per-disc. More and more often I'm happy to wait for the random selection of decidedly non-new releases to pop up on the company's Instant service before I watch them. It's only the hot, high-impact, exciting new releases that I really want on disc. You know, the kind of movie you thought about going to see on the theater and totally planned to, but then one of your friends flaked or you got lazy or you called ahead for ticket prices and you decided "Yeah, I'll just wait for Netflix and put that money toward my college loans." Those are the movies that I want on disc."
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vansmack wrote:
I'll cancel August 31 for sure (and this will be the second time I've cancelled Netflix).  There are plenty of options that are cheaper than $16 a month to get 99% of everything that's out.

my reading of this article is that no other service matches netflix's offerings:

Mad About Netflix Prices? Here Are Some Alternative Services
http://techland.time.com/2011/07/13/mad-about-netflix-prices-here-are-some-alternative-services/
depends what kind of films you use netflix for. but ive tried most of them out and found netflix to be the best for hard-to-find, foreign, indie, etc. sadly, a good chunk arent even available on demand. 1/5 of my films are available for streaming which mostly are the tv shows. Rather sad or my taste is more obscure than others. green cine is quite good in SF but if youre out of state it takes forever for dvds to arrive (no clue if they even have them for streaming).

sweetcell wrote:
vansmack wrote:
I'll cancel August 31 for sure (and this will be the second time I've cancelled Netflix).  There are plenty of options that are cheaper than $16 a month to get 99% of everything that's out.

my reading of this article is that no other service matches netflix's offerings:

Mad About Netflix Prices? Here Are Some Alternative Services
http://techland.time.com/2011/07/13/mad-about-netflix-prices-here-are-some-alternative-services/
sweetcell wrote:
my reading of this article is that no other service matches netflix's offerings:


Everything depends on the individuals taste.  I don't care if you have half as many streaming options as Netflix if it's more that I would watch.  There's a huge discrepancy between physical media options right now and streaming options and until they get that worked out, digital download is a better option that streaming in my eyes.

I've been an Amazon Prime member for shipping for years, so I consider Amazon Prime Instant a free bonus.

I've been sitting on a 3 month free trial of Hulu+ from Tivo for a while, so I'm going to fire that up.

So for Sept/Oct/Nov I'm going to cancel Netflix and try a combination of Amazon Prime, Hulu+, Red Box and Amazon Instant Download daily/weekly special offers with a monthly limit of the $16 Netflix wants from me for the same or similar features and compare.

Since Netflix doesn't grandfather it's customers I have nothing to lose.  If it doesn't work I can come back next year at the exact same rate (providing they don't raise it by then…).
Pogue did a good job trying to get to the bottom of why Netflix raised it's prices for reasons other than just saying it's a better deal for the consumer, which still doesn't make sense. 

Bottom line is this: the $10 a month for unlimited DVD (one at a time) and unlimited streaming didn't shift the balance to streaming the way they wanted.  Their streaming content library isn't deep enough so the $8 royalties for streaming were covering costs but they were losing on DVD rentals because most streamers kept one movie at a time that wasn't available streaming, somewhere between 3-4 a month. 

I think Netflix is going to be shocked when they see that most consumers have become accustomed to a mix of both streaming (convenience) and DVD (quality and selection) and don't want to choose one or the other, nor do they feel $16 is a fair price for both.

If I'm Amazon Instant, Google Movies or Apple TV/iTunes  (and maybe Hulu, but less likely since they're currently for sale) you've got to think this is your window to strike.  I say you've got 1 month to come up with a plan to cut into Netflix's market share and about 5 months to hold them.  Should be interesting…
Here is one of the few things that Ive always loved about Netflix (never saw this with any of the other places I tried out).


Immigration Tango was not available from your local shipping center. Fortunately, it was available from a shipping center in another part of the country. It's on its way and should arrive within 3 to 5 days.

You'll notice we also recently sent the next available DVD from your Queue to enjoy while Immigration Tango makes its way to you.
just read some article that basically says "netflix is better . . . deal with it.  the other places suck, and don't hold a candle to what netflix offers . . . so again, deal with it."
Smackie never settles.
Economist Android App.  Finally.



Sadly, no tablet app yet.
My favorite (eg, most offensive) comedian will be in DC October 20-23 at the DC Improv.

Jim Jeffries
Improv DC
Oct 20-23

He comes highly recommended by Smackie, though he's not for the faint.  Certainly not a date night, though if she doesn't walk out, she's a keeper.