COVID-19 2020

Space wrote:
Let's say the average Joe makes 4k per month. 2.6 billion pays for about 650K people to stay home for a month. We're averaging 1.4 million new cases a week.

Ok by your math, we'd have 8.4 mil cases in 6 weeks
well I think we can find 33bil …I say instead of 14 F35s…we make 4
there you go I just found 250 billion

I think massive rapid testing for a sustained period would make a huge difference
imagine we did this in June…probably would have only cost $2.6 bil then

Just wrote:
…so unless we pick up both senate seats in Georgia -

is this where I say pendant?


Can someone make a good meme of this, kinda writes itself, but looking for style here

Space wrote:
I'm with Hutch

A failed state


https://www.the74million.org/article/the-concerning-case-of-clevelands-no-show-students-more-than-8000-kids-are-missing-from-citys-online-classes-as-absenteeism-rates-double/

247K today! New record and it's only Wednesday.

Macron

Killswitch-hatch wrote:
Macron

Give him the Remdesivir.

Just wrote:
All for this but are we to think people who won’t wear masks will be responsibly testing themselves?

answer is in the article:

Solorigate-hatch wrote:[font=Verdana]Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, believes if just half the U.S. population were able to test themselves every four days, the country could quickly achieve vaccine-like "herd immunity" by letting people know in real time when they were contagious.[/font]

Space wrote:
So what would be the motivation for people to take these tests regularly? I tested once for travel purposes back in the summer, and the state I was going to wouldn't even accept this antigen test.

n=1.  we've come a long way (since), baby.

admittedly this isn't everyone, but a lot of people have a sense of personal responsibility, and/or are willing to do their part to slow down the pandemic.  yes, the anti-mask MAGAts get all the attention, but at least around me i see a lot of responsible folks out there on the rare times i go grocery shopping, to the post office, etc.

I'm glad I have sweets on my side!

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:
So what would be the motivation for people to take these tests regularly? I tested once for travel purposes back in the summer, and the state I was going to wouldn't even accept this antigen test.

n=1.  we've come a long way (since), baby.

admittedly this isn't everyone, but a lot of people have a sense of personal responsibility, and/or are willing to do their part to slow down the pandemic.  yes, the anti-mask MAGAts get all the attention, but at least around me i see a lot of responsible folks out there on the rare times i go grocery shopping, to the post office, etc.

As i have since March, i wear my mask everywhere indoors, don't go within 10 feet of anybody outdoors, go to the grocery store at oddball times, telework 100% of the time, have not eaten indoors a single time, etc…..I'll save the tests, which have a high degree of inaccuracy anyway. for those who need and want them. Sorry, that doesn't make me irresponsible.

Now, if they were forcing my kid to go into school in-person, yeah, I'd want to test her regularly. But they're not.

Space wrote:
Now, if they were forcing my kid to go into school in-person,

Sweets, I read Inslee is sending the kids back

Space wrote:
As i have since March, i wear my mask everywhere indoors, don't go within 10 feet of anybody outdoors, go to the grocery store at oddball times, telework 100% of the time, have not eaten indoors a single time, etc…..I'll save the tests, which have a high degree of inaccuracy anyway. for those who need and want them. Sorry, that doesn't make me irresponsible.

I appreciate your diligence but I really think you and your family can resume using your dining room this winter. Its cold out there, man.

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:
So what would be the motivation for people to take these tests regularly? I tested once for travel purposes back in the summer, and the state I was going to wouldn't even accept this antigen test.

n=1.  we've come a long way (since), baby.

admittedly this isn't everyone, but a lot of people have a sense of personal responsibility, and/or are willing to do their part to slow down the pandemic.  yes, the anti-mask MAGAts get all the attention, but at least around me i see a lot of responsible folks out there on the rare times i go grocery shopping, to the post office, etc.

As i have since March, i wear my mask everywhere indoors, don't go within 10 feet of anybody outdoors, go to the grocery store at oddball times, telework 100% of the time, have not eaten indoors a single time, etc…..I'll save the tests, which have a high degree of inaccuracy anyway. for those who need and want them. Sorry, that doesn't make me irresponsible.

space, you are indeed not irresponsible… you're exactly the kind of person i referenced in the bolded section, above.  not sure how you thought i was targeting you.  i certainly wasn't.

Solorigate-hatch wrote:

Space wrote:
Now, if they were forcing my kid to go into school in-person,

Sweets, I read Inslee is sending the kids back

yeah, and it's kind of a mess.  kindergarten, grade school and middle schools may start opening as soon as the end of january, but the situation is chaotic.  i got an email this morning from my kids school saying they couldn't open in a month's time even if they wanted to, so date is TBD but no sooner than february.  it's hard to make the new rules work:

Schools will be required to follow mandatory safety measures established by the state Department of Health. They include screening students and staff for symptoms; maintaining distances of 6 feet, and keeping students in smaller groups or “cohorts” of about 15 if the room doesn’t accommodate that spacing; wearing face coverings; increased hygiene protocols like handwashing, sanitizing and adequate ventilation."

my school's solution it to have a morning cohort and an afternoon cohort - split the class in half and each gets half a day in school.  but no school busses for the morning cohort, so parents need to figure out transpo.  and keeping a class full of 6 and 7 years olds to keep their masks on - how well do you think that's going to go?  it's not all kids, either, only those who want to return to a half-day of classes - many will continue being 100% remote.  so there are issue of how to ensure that everyone is getting the same quality of education, how can teachers deal with both in-person and at-home students, etc…

none of this is relevant to me because we joined a pod that has hired an out-of-work teacher.  so my kids are currently going to "school", which is a converted playroom at one of the pod member's house.  the whole zoom-for-7-hours-a-day wasn't working with the kids, they were miserable and weren't learning much.  this pod school has been a lifesaver.  privilege has its memberships…

sweets is now a pod-person?

I'm not even sure what a pod is.

So proud of my daughter. Straight A's in her AAP classes and Algebra 1 so far in DL. Has had one masked playdate in nine months and has barely complained.

I think we got lucky. She got DL for the two middle school years that everyone hates anyways. I don't envy the parents of lower elementary and feel bad for the high schoolers missing the high school experience.

Maybe this should be in the parenting thread.

Solorigate-hatch wrote:
sweets is now a pod-person?

i constantly refer to the other families as "the pod people" and it makes me giggle every time.  thanks for ruining that, as you've correctly pointed out that i, too, am a pod-person.

Space wrote:
I'm not even sure what a pod is.

pod = isolation unit.  it's a group of people that join together in a "bubble" - they can interact with each other, but no one outside the pod.  in our case most (but not all) got tested in the beginning, and we have signed a contract to not see other people outside the pod (part of the contract with the teacher).  so we've had them over for birthday parties, we pressed apples together (i fermented it for the group, turned out awesome), etc.  however, we cannot fraternize with others - including our own families.  i can spent christmas with them but not my in-laws who live in the state.  we'll keep this up through the end of the school year or until we are all vaccinated, whichever comes first.  we have meetings when anyone wants to do something against the rules (i.e. any covid-risky activity), and we have the right to shoot down a request if the group deems it unacceptable.

thanks to this country's rugged individualism, authorities have been unable and/or unwilling to truly regulate and enforce social distancing.  in many other countries, they have rules related to pods: depending on the severity of the pandemic, you may be allowed to pod with X other individuals or families.  in canuckistan right now, my sister had podded with our mom, so they can visit each other - but can't visit anyone else.  apparently you can get up to a $6,000 fine for breaking quarantine by seeing anyone outside your pod.

uprising against the concept of pods in 3… 2…

Space wrote:
So proud of my daughter. Straight A's in her AAP classes and Algebra 1 so far in DL. Has had one masked playdate in nine months and has barely complained.

I think we got lucky. She got DL for the two middle school years that everyone hates anyways. I don't envy the parents of lower elementary and feel bad for the high schoolers missing the high school experience.

i'm sure i should know this, but what is "DL"?  i only know it as meaning "down-low", as in "please keep that story on the DL", or "he sleeps with other men on the DL."

Excellent article: Hang On for Three More Months

ugh.

254K today! Could possibly be revised upward slightly!