COVID-19 2020

excontraindication wrote:
Larry Hogan.

So MD now has one confirmed case since Dec 4…

This after he went on Faux News to criticize PG County Schools for going back to virtual

You can’t criticize virtual schooling cause you got covid?


Come on man…what are you saying? We need to stay home locked down forever?

Virtual schooling really is pretty shitty…and has a huge cost to children and their families.

I get the desire to kick Hogan but he’s been pretty good.

Starsky wrote:
You can’t criticize virtual schooling cause you got covid?


Come on man…what are you saying? We need to stay home locked down forever?

Virtual schooling really is pretty shitty…and has a huge cost to children and their families.

I get the desire to kick Hogan but he’s been pretty good.

+1. Kosmo doesn't have kids.

My kid actually fared very well, academically, with virtual. Better than in-person. Still, she wants no part of a possible return to virtual. And I realize that many others weren't in as fortunate of circumstances as we were. Some might even argue that disgruntled NoVA parents were one reason why Youngkin won.

beleaguered wrote:

Space wrote: And she replied, "No, I'm talking about the giant machine in Alaska they control the weather with."

as a Jew, I can confirm this is wrong…Jews would never live in Alaska to control the weather
They live in Florida and control the space lasers from there (thankfully Desantis hasn't cracked down on this yet)

Shit…apparently the Mossad is reading this and I'm a marked man, this may be my last post

This is what she was referring to:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/conspiracy-theories-abound-u-s-military-closes-haarp-n112576

Space wrote:

beleaguered wrote:

Space wrote: And she replied, "No, I'm talking about the giant machine in Alaska they control the weather with."

as a Jew, I can confirm this is wrong…Jews would never live in Alaska to control the weather
They live in Florida and control the space lasers from there (thankfully Desantis hasn't cracked down on this yet)

Shit…apparently the Mossad is reading this and I'm a marked man, this may be my last post

This is what she was referring to:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/conspiracy-theories-abound-u-s-military-closes-haarp-n112576

And this.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/22/fact-check-claim-unvaccinated-being-sent-camps-satire/8026285002/

School isn’t just about taking tests or being in a classroom listening to teachers…that’s arguably for many the least important part

Particularly for younger kids it’s about learning to be social, make friendships….relate

Older kids obviously will bear virtual learning  much better than younger kids…

What gets me about those always in favor of shutting down in the name of safety is they never give any consideration to all the other costs of doing so… it’s like those costs don’t matter because all that matters is not dying but what living are you left with… is someone going to step in and take care of the kids that get left behind…alive but… how many years do they need to stay home? Forever? And how likely is it my fully vaccinated kids would get covid and die from school? I mean it must be infinitesimal!

It’s just so moronic… the failure to balance all the costs with the benefit… as if a case of covid for a fully vaccinated person who wears masks to school is automatic death…

UK is averaging close to 100,000 new cases with 100 deaths per day.

Oh and let’s throw the economy in the crapper again…

Space wrote: Some might even argue that disgruntled NoVA parents were one reason why Youngkin won.

I think it's gone from argument to fact on that

Starsky wrote:
School isn’t just about taking tests or being in a classroom listening to teachers…that’s arguably for many the least important part

Particularly for younger kids it’s about learning to be social, make friendships….relate

Older kids obviously will bear virtual learning  much better than younger kids…

What gets me about those always in favor of shutting down in the name of safety is they never give any consideration to all the other costs of doing so… it’s like those costs don’t matter because all that matters is not dying but what living are you left with… is someone going to step in and take care of the kids that get left behind…alive but… how many years do they need to stay home? Forever? And how likely is it my fully vaccinated kids would get covid and die from school? I mean it must be infinitesimal!

It’s just so moronic… the failure to balance all the costs with the benefit… as if a case of covid for a fully vaccinated person who wears masks to school is automatic death…

UK is averaging close to 100,000 new cases with 100 deaths per day.

Oh and let’s throw the economy in the crapper again…

ii was adking those same questions all the eay back in April 2020. Guess i was ahead of my time, lol.

Some would say of course those kids aren't going to die but their immunocompromised parents and grandparents could.

I was a kid that would have been happy not to go to school. For years I hated it.

Studying- barely- was the easiest part…I studied but I didn’t need to study much except one class: Physics 11th grade

I remember in high school deciding to take the AP in European history never having actually taken a course, read or studied about European history

The night and day before (on train to school) I read a book on European history, went in and got a 5 of course….my sixth five.. when I went to college on a full scholarship I had a full years worth of credits in the bag….not that I needed them…

Thing is I had a tough time relating to people, making friends, avoiding being bullied until 9th grade (when I put a stop to it)….it’s no wonder being transferred from country to country school to school language to language and having a father- the most important person in my life- that didn’t have one friend after 40…. Meaning I never remember him having a friend 

But it would of all been so much worse if I had done virtual learning…I never would have had contact with anyone outside my kooky father and beaten down mother…my difficulties relating to people would have superseded any academic potential… and arguably it wasn’t even enough…I still had difficulties dealing with people and it did bite me in the ass hard

Staying alive is great but learning to live a life worth living is better….

I wish people thought about some of these things before just letting public health professionals make every decision for us… it’s just a little more complicated than stay at home stay alive

And space the thing is it’s ok to take off a year and change when people are dropping dead in the streets by the thousands daily…and there are no vaccines Space…


But that’s not the situation today!

i hear ya hutch. A+ would read again. Thanks for sharing.

Starsky wrote:
how many years do they need to stay home? Forever?

don't be a drama queen.  the last lockdown wasn't forever (and in this country, it wasn't even really a lockdown). 

"what?  i have to take a BATH?!?  how long to do i have to stay in the tub, FOREVER?!?!?!111"

Starsky wrote:
And how likely is it my fully vaccinated kids would get covid and die from school? I mean it must be infinitesimal!

you do realize how societies work, right?  just because something doesn't apply 100% to you, personally, doesn't mean it's not the right thing for a society to do.

Starsky wrote:
It’s just so moronic…

agreed

Starsky wrote:
the failure to balance all the costs with the benefit… as if a case of covid for a fully vaccinated person who wears masks to school is automatic death…

do you seriously think that policy makers did not consider the costs and benefits of various mandates before declaring them?  "oh, mary says we should lockdown - i dunno, sounds good to me, let's GOOOOOO!!!"?

or is it that you disagree with the risk/reward assessments that have been made?  perfectly understandable, but don't grandstand that no one is looking at the costs.

Bowser said Monday that she is reinstating the District’s indoor mask mandate and declared a state of emergency.

“I will reinstate a citywide mask order,” Bowser said during a briefing, and added that the city plans expanded testing during the winter surge of COVID-19.

Bowser’s order starts at 6 a.m. Tuesday. It will run until Jan. 31.

I am sorry sweetcell did I mock you, insult you or what have you?

GTFO

Space wrote:
i hear ya hutch. A+ would read again. Thanks for sharing.

Anyways a lot of it is still in my head but it wasn’t all bad… I must have gotten along with people to get elected student body government president in high school


And no contrary to sweetcell’s rude ass post my concerns are not mainly about my kids.. they will be alright…more like kids in general…a whole generation of them

Starsky wrote:

Space wrote:
i hear ya hutch. A+ would read again. Thanks for sharing.

Anyways a lot of it is still in my head but it wasn’t all bad… I must have gotten along with people to get elected student body government president in high school


And no contrary to sweetcell’s rude ass post my concerns are not mainly about my kids.. they will be alright…more like kids in general…a whole generation of them

Not saying this is true for sweetcell, but I seriously think some people enjoy the mass disruption, panic, lockdowns, isolotation, etc. that covid has caused. Kids being out of school should've never happened in the first place and still shouldn't happen IMO.

DCPS closed January 3 and 4 so they can distribute 100K self tests.

Starsky wrote:
I am sorry sweetcell did I mock you, insult you or what have you?

GTFO

that is an excellent rebuttal to the points i made.  i will have to reconsider my position based on the arguments you present. 

Starsky wrote:
And no contrary to sweetcell’s rude ass post

where exactly was i rude?

or are you not used to having your ideas challenged?

or are you THAT sensitive?

sweetcell wrote:

Starsky wrote:
how many years do they need to stay home? Forever?

don't be a drama queen.  the last lockdown wasn't forever (and in this country, it wasn't even really a lockdown). 

"what?  i have to take a BATH?!?  how long to do i have to stay in the tub, FOREVER?!?!?!111"

Starsky wrote:
And how likely is it my fully vaccinated kids would get covid and die from school? I mean it must be infinitesimal!

you do realize how societies work, right?  just because something doesn't apply 100% to you, personally, doesn't mean it's not the right thing for a society to do.

Starsky wrote:
It’s just so moronic…

agreed

Starsky wrote:
the failure to balance all the costs with the benefit… as if a case of covid for a fully vaccinated person who wears masks to school is automatic death…

do you seriously think that policy makers did not consider the costs and benefits of various mandates before declaring them?  "oh, mary says we should lockdown - i dunno, sounds good to me, let's GOOOOOO!!!"?

or is it that you disagree with the risk/reward assessments that have been made?  perfectly understandable, but don't grandstand that no one is looking at the costs.

Rude, condescending and mocking…not worth engaging with…

sweetcell wrote:
or are you not used to having your ideas challenged?

or are you THAT sensitive?

It's like you're just discovering Hutch for the first time.