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hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 12, 2020 at 12:24 AM UTC #
Yeesh


It could have gone ok but we messed up


If we average 60,000 cases for 115 days by election time we will have 10 million confirmed cases…it’s just unbelievable to me…my neighbor and I were talking and shaking our heads cause the way this is going things may not be handled til 2021
gavroche
Joined: February 03, 2013 at 11:51 PM UTC
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 13, 2020 at 03:49 PM UTC #
hutch wrote:
Huh? Nothing to gain by avoiding covid?

That’s a weird thing to say

And the idea letting this thing get out of control isn’t going to impact us?

This keeps going the way it is there are going to be serious repercussions for everyone


If you work in a risky environment, once you are forced back to work then there is very little you can do to prevent yourself from getting COVID.

And there is nothing that any of us can do to stop the virus when 35% of the public thinks the virus isn't serious and the rest of us have to work to keep our livelihoods.

I have a hard time condemning people who are forced to go into factories and places like that for going on vacation, when they see that the country is being forced open.  Leadership matters.
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 13, 2020 at 05:59 PM UTC #
Why does it have to be the end? Plenty of countries in Europe had it bad and are now carrying on with infections in the hundreds and deaths in the teens…


This isn’t so hard!


Now if your people refuse to wear masks, can’t stop going to bars and having Covid parties then, yea, the end might have to come…

I guess I just don’t see why provided people and businesses take precautions things can’t reopen…

Meat packing plants that are Super spreaders ? Shut them down

Again, not that hard


Nobody is being asked to go to war here!




hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 02:59 AM UTC #
Democrats will be faced with a tough choice


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/politics/covid-aid-congress-mitch-mcconnell/index.html


Just with respect to concert venues no deal means no aid and will make it hard for some venues to survive …a deal doesn’t necessarily mean aid will arrive

I would vote NO…whatever Republicans put forth will have too many poison pills

gavroche
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 03:00 PM UTC #
hutch wrote:
Democrats will be faced with a tough choice


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/politics/covid-aid-congress-mitch-mcconnell/index.html


Just with respect to concert venues no deal means no aid and will make it hard for some venues to survive …a deal doesn’t necessarily mean aid will arrive

I would vote NO…whatever Republicans put forth will have too many poison pills


This next bill will look more like the R bill than the House HEROES Act.  My guess it will be Senate bill plus a couple of thing.

Dems will absolutely capitulate on business liability, but it won't even be a capitulation because Schumer and Pelosi want to help them out, they just don't want to say it.
Sidehatch
Joined: October 04, 2011 at 04:33 AM UTC
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 03:53 PM UTC #
Heilung4eva wrote:
squinting wrote:
hutch wrote:

In fact this virus seems to love partying, bars and live music!

Fucker

I think the thing is that alcohol and smoking probably make one more at risk and lowers your immune response too.  So putting you at higher risk of catching  (unlike at a protest where people are staying sober)

What is odd is stupidy isn't technically a risk-factor.  But it's becoming aperent it is.


Definitely no. This is absolutely incorrect.

You have no immunity.  The symptoms of COVID are your body's immune system trying to figure out what to do.

Alcohol and smoking are higher risk factors, but only because they cloud your judgement and you no longer practice social distancing or wear masks.  (Tho for real, people going to bars probably didn't bring masks to begin with.)


1 in 3 young adults vulnerable to severe Covid-19 — and smoking plays a big part, research finds
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 06:20 PM UTC #
Hey Hutch, I heard Arlington County Schools just made the decision for you.
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 06:27 PM UTC #
Yeah Hutchette just called to give me the good news


In the horrible grand scheme of it I think it’s for the best..I had sort of decided already I wouldn’t send them to school

They need to just focus all resources on making online teaching and learning the best it can be

Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 07:55 PM UTC #
yeah to boot this was a headline today
Arlington Sees Highest One-Day Coronavirus Case Total Since May


This was also a headline
Arlington has again claimed the title of “America’s Fittest City.”
take that Seattle slackers!
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 08:22 PM UTC #
Those kind of rankings (“Top cities for…” or “Best cities in..”) always make no sense to me but Arlington is always at the top or very near…sometimes it doesn’t even ring true…I wonder if it has to do with Arlington being like the smallest county or something like that


beetsnotbeats
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 09:17 PM UTC #
six reasons for optimism
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 09:30 PM UTC #
Justin wrote:
six reasons for optimism

This is what I keep saying and glad to hear that this is a reason to be optimistic
Rapid, low-cost saliva tests are also coming, and, as my colleague Michael Mina and Laurence J. Kotlikoff recently pointed out, they are a game-changer. Why? These are like home pregnancy tests but for covid-19. Imagine a test you could take at home every day, that gives you an answer in a few minutes after spitting into a vial and costs only $1 to $5. Such a test would change our ability to slow outbreaks where early detection is everything. It would also help consumer confidence and slow down this economic crisis. Want to go to school or work or a Broadway show? Show your rapid test was negative. These tests are not perfectly accurate, but the counterintuitive part is that they don’t have to be. More important than accuracy are speed and frequency of testing.
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 09:38 PM UTC #
If people won’t wear a mask cause “Freedumb!!” you think they will willingly take test?

beetsnotbeats
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 09:54 PM UTC #
My concern with a vaccine is how it functions. If it's like a conventional vaccine (weakened virus that stimulates immunity but doesn't cause illness) then it might be easy to require it by law in some circumstances, e.g. attend public school. But if it takes a novel approach and its long-term safety is not yet known, anti-vaxxers will have a solid case for refusing it.

There are 154 vaccines in development, conventional and otherwise. Many will work, probably including some conventional.
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020 July 14, 2020 at 10:00 PM UTC #
I mean I was talking about this with my mom a couple of days ago and I was saying I cannot see taking a vaccine straight away…wouldn’t it be kind of stupid to do so (before knowing what side effects there might be)?



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